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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 201708" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: blue">Dorkhead ( could you come up with a less derogatory name, I feel like I'm calling you names by using your name <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/thumbup1.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup1:" title="Thumbup1 :thumbup1:" data-shortname=":thumbup1:" />) </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">You could easily take the mechanics pension and others around the country where the money was invested wisely and where upsers collect some very healthy retirements and make the argument that UPS has compensated its people very generously. The multi employer concept in general is not performing very well for our people. Many like CS are leaking buckets. Therefore I don't think the argument should be that UPS can afford it but the argument should be what will the teamsters leadership do to ensure that our people collect the money we are actually putting into these pensions. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">The CS pension itself is proof that Carey fought to hold onto the pension with no long term plan to ensure the plans paid out. So Good old ronnie used the preverbial "the boogie man ups is coming" line to scare you folks into thinking the pension would be stolen from you. While you were looking out into the shadows for this mysterious boogie man your pension got flushed down the toilet. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">In reality 10 years later the boogie man turned out to be Ron Carey. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/sad.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sad:" title="Sad :sad:" data-shortname=":sad:" /></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 201708, member: 1912"] [COLOR=blue]Dorkhead ( could you come up with a less derogatory name, I feel like I'm calling you names by using your name :thumbup1:) [/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]You could easily take the mechanics pension and others around the country where the money was invested wisely and where upsers collect some very healthy retirements and make the argument that UPS has compensated its people very generously. The multi employer concept in general is not performing very well for our people. Many like CS are leaking buckets. Therefore I don't think the argument should be that UPS can afford it but the argument should be what will the teamsters leadership do to ensure that our people collect the money we are actually putting into these pensions. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]The CS pension itself is proof that Carey fought to hold onto the pension with no long term plan to ensure the plans paid out. So Good old ronnie used the preverbial "the boogie man ups is coming" line to scare you folks into thinking the pension would be stolen from you. While you were looking out into the shadows for this mysterious boogie man your pension got flushed down the toilet. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]In reality 10 years later the boogie man turned out to be Ron Carey. :sad:[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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