Rose -hall of Fame ---Has the time come ??

Discussion in 'Sports' started by island1fox, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member

    With all the Roid news ---Is Pete really that bad to be excluded ??
  2. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    I think he might get in eventually. But only posthumously.
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    None of the Roids players will ever get in. Rose will get in but will not be with us when it happens.

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  4. Anonymous 12

    Anonymous 12 Non active member

    I say let him in and the roid boys as well this once sacred game is damaged forever. A real baseball purist would puke at this stuff. Rose was a great ball player as was Bonds. Just like marriage isn't sacred in this country anymore neither is baseball.
  5. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member

    407. Sad but true !!
  6. Observer

    Observer Member

    Rose is why a lot played little league baseball. Unfortunately, soccer now has a stranglehold now. Rose should have been in the hall of fame ten years ago.
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  7. ZQXC

    ZQXC Guest

    "that bad"
    Do you hear yourself?
    Do you really want tarnished players inducted?
    Where does it end?
    What new level of unworthiness will be overlooked?
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Where I live youth soccer is huge----the main reason is that, unlike in our local Little League or Babe Ruth baseball leagues, everyone plays in our local youth soccer leagues.
  9. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    I give Rose 7 to 1 odds on getting in.
  10. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member


    What did Rose do ? As a Manager bet on his own team --that they would win.

    He did not bet against his team and throw the game.

    His bet on his team did not tarnish his Batting Average, Total Hits , His attitude , Hustle, Talent and dedication on the Diamond.

    Yes. I hear myself and I repeat the same Question : What Rose did was so bad ?? --to prevent him from going into the hall of Fame for his on -field Accomplishments ??

    Very different from the steroid crowd --that took drugs to cheat and put up tainted numbers.
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  11. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    "This is the Major League rule in question. It is not vague, and it is well known to all players and coaches:
    Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.

    Dowd collected gambling ledgers, bank and phone records and court documents. He took depositions from Rose’s friends who placed bets for him, from one of his bookies, from Rose himself. He found that Rose was betting five to 10 games a day, every day, in basketball, football, hockey and baseball, at about $2,000 a game. In one month, Rose lost more than $67,000, and he was deeply in debt to the bookies, including $200,000 in the hole at one point to a Staten Island bookie linked to the Mafia. He refused to pay substantial debts to his bookies at various times, witnesses told Dowd, and that can get a guy in a heap of trouble"
  12. jumpman23

    jumpman23 Oh Yeah

    One of the the saddest yet idiotic decisions I have ever seen in the history of sports. Bunch of BS not having CHARLIE HUSTLE in the hall. Im always like really dude, you guys are a bunch of little bitches for that bs lol.
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I guess they could induct him and then change the name to hall of Shame.
  14. Anonymous 12

    Anonymous 12 Non active member

    Ty Cobb wasn't exactly the second coming of Jesus but he's looked at like a pure hall of famer.
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    For those of you who have not had the chance you should definitely make the drive to Cooperstown someday.

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  16. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member

    Babe Ruth , Mickey Mantle Billy Martin ----When the Saints come marching in.

    In our country we are now discussing giving back the right to vote to convicted felons after they have served their sentences.

    The years and years of Banning Rose for Gambling should be punishment enough.

    He belongs in the hall of Fame for His on-field accomplishments --not for his off field betting .

    Many people can even take the position --do we ban Alcoholics ?? Do we ban those hooked on Drugs ? (excluding performance enhancing) Do we ban those hooked on Gambling ? Do we ban those hooked on sex ?? etc etc. Are they not considered "sick" and can be cured ??
  17. ZQXC

    ZQXC Guest

    Let 'em all in and change the name also:

    The hall of Shame
  18. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member

    I do not see either of those two happening.

    The Roiders will probably never go in - unless with a * attached.
    The hall of Fame will always be called the same.
  19. ajblakejr

    ajblakejr Age quod agis

    Let him in as a player.

    Bart Starr, yes, a man of honor and character, was inducted into Pro Football hall of Fame in 1977.

    As a coach, Bart is not a hall of Famer.

    Just saying, Rose was a damn good player. Give him an asterisk *. Give him a mention. Recognize the decline of the league ...
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.