brown, i agree 100% with your post, but i have a question for you or other managers.
how is it in mooses case that management has the admission of the driver, but yet makes moose out to be the bad guy by making him decide what happens next??????? what the heck is management thinking? if moose does nothing, then they are off the hook? or if he says take action, then a case could be made that moose "was responsible" for the driver getting fired.
the whole idea of the rules ups has to protect employees form others is just that. instead, you put him in harms way even further, regardless.
again, management lacks the balls to do what is right, and the resonsibility rests on the victim, again.
I understand the frustration. When a cop shows up to a Domestic Violence house, can tell the woman was being beaten on, gets her to admit it, but she won't press charges what happens? Nothing.
The person who is the victim of the workplace violence or harassment, which as we've already established is not solely physical in nature, must come forward and formally report it. The only thing left was telling the OCS and center manager, "Yes, I want something done about it". I'm guessing as soon as that happens the driver will be suspended without pay for a period of time.
For others, As far as this whole brother against brother garbage, this isn't the civil war. You are under obligation to report this stuff to management for a reason. Read the last two paragraphs of my last post. The guy who is fighting on company property with co-workers likely has other issues going on. It's like the guy who kills somebody, he doesn't start out one day and say "I'm going to go kill somebody".
People don't start out one day threatening the lives of customers, their well being, or being physical with them.
Ask your BA if somebody fighting deserves to keep their job afterwards. They will likely tell you no. I can't speak for all of the NMA (It's long folks) but I would not be surprised if there was a provision in there about fighting.
Your not a Rat or a Scab or any other word if you report a fight. Chances are in most of these cases if they happened on the sidewalk outside the building, the cops would be there arresting people for assault.
These days kids who fight in school get ticketed and have to show up in court. There is a reason we have police officers in schools.
Why does this have to be about protecting Union Jobs? In my mind, your protecting the job by reporting the fight. Your ensuring that the Union stays strong with highly qualified and skilled workers.
This is not Monday-Night Fight Club. We are here to get packages from Point A to Point B.
If people thought they could fight in the process, don't you think there would be a whole new breed of employee? Pay, Benefits, the whole lot could easily be reduced. People are complaining that the NMA wasn't enough, imagine if people weren't fired on the spot for fighting. The company could get by paying folks a whole lot less and have folks who weren't nearly as intelligent.
A college degree is not a requirement to drive, but I guarantee you a NASA Scientist would have trouble with a day on a route. The company loses money invested in the worker as well, you aren't monkeys. You can't just replace somebody. Look at all the threads about bad pre-loaders who have just started.
At the same time the company is maintaining a safe work environment, not to even begin to mention the liability. I'm positive that a safe work environment is in the NMA.
If fighting wasn't strictly enforced, I guarantee you there would be metal detectors in centers 20 years from now. I get into a fight and I lose, what's to keep me from coming back the next day with a knife or gun?
Let's think about this people, you all are extremely intelligent. I'll get down from my soap box now . . .