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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 663462" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>And my "BTW" comment wasn't aimed at you either. Sorry for the confusion. It was just aimed at the broader context of so-called conservative talk radio in general and both sides who go back and forth about it. </p><p> </p><p>As for my first comment, it just used your's (comment to Tie's post) to make a broader comment that IMO backs up you statement above that I highlighted that was spot on. As for private charities, again what you point out is so true at least in what it does to help people. I don't pay attention to bumper stickers as you have so don't know about that one but IMO private charities are not there in general to build and expand careers, promotion oppotunities and because donations are voluntary, they have to show that they are working to solve a problem. I won't say private charity is always perfect and beyond abuse but in general I think most are.</p><p> </p><p>Gov't however in not voluntary but is mandatory by force and people in gov't are there to have careers just as we do at UPS. Are we (UPSers) generally seeking out to obtain new customers and expand the business base in order to grow profits that generate promotions, more jobs, moving up the seniority list as the job list grows? Sure, so is it any less of us to think that those in gov't in their own careers are not out to do the same so they too can profit for career growth opportunities or just financial security in a solid and ever growing customer base? How would these people in gov't fair is there was no more poverty or other ill condition? Would it therefore benefit them to either have more poverty or <u><em>just change the definition from time to time to expand the customer base?</em></u> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/surprised.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":surprised:" title="Surprised :surprised:" data-shortname=":surprised:" /> Did <strong><u>we all</u></strong> just have a Eureka moment? <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /> And the 2 parties benefit from more votes via the giveaway plan.</p><p> </p><p>Can a private charity use the same level of force to extract contributions from all the people who live within a set geographic area no matter how effective they are at what they do? The only means they have to gain contributions is to perform as promised to those that contribute. Gov't however is not bound to that level of specific performance and thus one of the reasons nothing ever gets solved!</p><p> </p><p>Keep up the good work with private charities and undercutting the gov't customer base and it's business model! I'm also a huge advocate of that method. But then gov't will just expand the rules that defined the needy and at some point we'll all be on the list. I'm already planning on what big screen I'm gonna buy and the cadillac I'm gonna drive. Maybe like Atlas we should begin to Shrug!</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 663462, member: 2189"] And my "BTW" comment wasn't aimed at you either. Sorry for the confusion. It was just aimed at the broader context of so-called conservative talk radio in general and both sides who go back and forth about it. As for my first comment, it just used your's (comment to Tie's post) to make a broader comment that IMO backs up you statement above that I highlighted that was spot on. As for private charities, again what you point out is so true at least in what it does to help people. I don't pay attention to bumper stickers as you have so don't know about that one but IMO private charities are not there in general to build and expand careers, promotion oppotunities and because donations are voluntary, they have to show that they are working to solve a problem. I won't say private charity is always perfect and beyond abuse but in general I think most are. Gov't however in not voluntary but is mandatory by force and people in gov't are there to have careers just as we do at UPS. Are we (UPSers) generally seeking out to obtain new customers and expand the business base in order to grow profits that generate promotions, more jobs, moving up the seniority list as the job list grows? Sure, so is it any less of us to think that those in gov't in their own careers are not out to do the same so they too can profit for career growth opportunities or just financial security in a solid and ever growing customer base? How would these people in gov't fair is there was no more poverty or other ill condition? Would it therefore benefit them to either have more poverty or [U][I]just change the definition from time to time to expand the customer base?[/I][/U] :surprised: Did [B][U]we all[/U][/B] just have a Eureka moment? :wink2: And the 2 parties benefit from more votes via the giveaway plan. Can a private charity use the same level of force to extract contributions from all the people who live within a set geographic area no matter how effective they are at what they do? The only means they have to gain contributions is to perform as promised to those that contribute. Gov't however is not bound to that level of specific performance and thus one of the reasons nothing ever gets solved! Keep up the good work with private charities and undercutting the gov't customer base and it's business model! I'm also a huge advocate of that method. But then gov't will just expand the rules that defined the needy and at some point we'll all be on the list. I'm already planning on what big screen I'm gonna buy and the cadillac I'm gonna drive. Maybe like Atlas we should begin to Shrug! :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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