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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 151652" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p>Valid points? I'm not sure what you're reading. All that BAP has done is make a lot of wild, unsupported accusations that somehow it's "the liberals" who are to blame for our current troubles. If there's a valid argument in there please point it out to me.</p><p></p><p> For the last 6 years Bush has basically had a blank check. In absolutely all matters having to do with the "war on terror" generally and Iraq specifically he has gotten <strong>every single thing</strong> he has asked for. He has had the full support of a republican controlled legislature, a generally conservative judiciary, and an American public that has been pretty much inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on conducting foreign policy. The most watched news network in the USA, FOX news, is unabashedly conservative and has unequivocally supported him every step of the way.</p><p></p><p> And now, six years into it and faced with the biggest debacle since Vietnam, it's suddenly "the liberals" who are to blame? This is a joke right? The biggest criticism you can make of the Democrats at this point is that they have basically abdicated their role as the opposition party and rolled over for fear of being labeled "unpatriotic".</p><p></p><p> Who exactly are these "suites and ties" sitting inside the beltway who have somehow managed to tie the hands of our military? Name me one, and tell me what exactly he/she has done. Really, I'd be interested to hear it.</p><p></p><p> Prior to the war in Iraq, Army Chief of Staff General Eric Shinseki said publicly that the administration of a post war Iraq would require several hundred thousand troops in order to be succesful. His honesty got him publicly humiliated by Wolfowitz and turned into a lame duck by Rumsfeld. Read what <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/09/rumsfeld-forbade-post-war-planning-for-iraq/" target="_blank">[SIZE=-1]Mark Scheid [/SIZE]</a>has to say. Who was it that tied the hands of our military again? Some guy in a <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Rumsfeld1.jpg" target="_blank">suit and tie</a>?</p><p></p><p> But hey, maybe we should just do like Over9five says and make some videos of our troops cutting off people's heads while shouting "God is great". I'm sure that will go long way to fixing things. </p><p></p><p> "Liberals"....please...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 151652, member: 4805"] Valid points? I'm not sure what you're reading. All that BAP has done is make a lot of wild, unsupported accusations that somehow it's "the liberals" who are to blame for our current troubles. If there's a valid argument in there please point it out to me. For the last 6 years Bush has basically had a blank check. In absolutely all matters having to do with the "war on terror" generally and Iraq specifically he has gotten [B]every single thing[/B] he has asked for. He has had the full support of a republican controlled legislature, a generally conservative judiciary, and an American public that has been pretty much inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on conducting foreign policy. The most watched news network in the USA, FOX news, is unabashedly conservative and has unequivocally supported him every step of the way. And now, six years into it and faced with the biggest debacle since Vietnam, it's suddenly "the liberals" who are to blame? This is a joke right? The biggest criticism you can make of the Democrats at this point is that they have basically abdicated their role as the opposition party and rolled over for fear of being labeled "unpatriotic". Who exactly are these "suites and ties" sitting inside the beltway who have somehow managed to tie the hands of our military? Name me one, and tell me what exactly he/she has done. Really, I'd be interested to hear it. Prior to the war in Iraq, Army Chief of Staff General Eric Shinseki said publicly that the administration of a post war Iraq would require several hundred thousand troops in order to be succesful. His honesty got him publicly humiliated by Wolfowitz and turned into a lame duck by Rumsfeld. Read what [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/09/rumsfeld-forbade-post-war-planning-for-iraq/"][SIZE=-1]Mark Scheid [/SIZE][/URL]has to say. Who was it that tied the hands of our military again? Some guy in a [URL="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Rumsfeld1.jpg"]suit and tie[/URL]? But hey, maybe we should just do like Over9five says and make some videos of our troops cutting off people's heads while shouting "God is great". I'm sure that will go long way to fixing things. "Liberals"....please... [/QUOTE]
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