Sader errors

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by ncsu2388, Jan 15, 2015.

  1. ncsu2388

    ncsu2388 New Member

    Today I was running a route with saders for Catherine's and justice delivery between 1-4 I have been told by my supervisor to deliver before if able and prerecord then complete in the window today I forgot to stop complete them and it was after 4 before I completed them. I was told probably going to get a warning letter . What exactly is a warning letter and how much trouble am a in?
     
  2. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

  3. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    Duh, he ran a route with satyrs...
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  4. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

  5. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    I thought he meant the Passover custom of Seder.

    But, what do I know?
     
  6. mpeedy

    mpeedy Member

    Say you are not sader certified. I have one late every month and have not been written up. I have 14 of them at my mall.Along with the air, saders make you run the mall completely out of order but that's on ups. If you come early the store might not be staffed properly to accept shipment like opening the back door.They could make a complaint and you would be in trouble for sheeting them incorrectly. Next time just deliver them when ups has agreed to.
     
  7. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Why would prerecord when it's against the methods?
     
  8. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

    What the hell is a Sader??
     
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It's a delivery stop that must be delivered within a specified time frame; for example, Gamestop must be delivered by noon.
     
  10. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    Explain the acronym, Dave. This seems to be unknown to most of us.
     
  11. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    So a sup told him to use prerecord to falsify delivery records. If UPS tries to give you a warning letter for messing up prerecord grieve it and it will get tossed out.
     
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  12. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    I'm on a split route with no NDA...I get handed a portion of the next guys' NDA...

    I put them in prerecord (so I have a list) and then I deliver them.

    Who told you putting stops in prerecord is against the methods?

    I cover a bunch of business routes where prerecord is a valuable function.
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I don't know what Sader stands for but I knew what he was talking about.

    Our mall driver got spoken to for delivering a Sader stop 15 minutes early.

    Prerecording a Sader stop is a slippery slope.
     
  14. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Uhhh maybe. All the sup has to do is say I didn't tell you that.

    I can tell you right now my BA would say. You should of known better.
     
  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Prerecording to stop complete later is most certainly falsifying recording.

    Prerecording air is also a big no no now.
     
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  16. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Good point. The sup will deny he ever said that and of course it was never put in writing.
     
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    BA, there is nothing wrong with prerecording---I do it all the time--- but there is something wrong with delivering a stop, prerecording it and completing the stop away from the delivery location just to make sure it appears to have been delivered on time.

    Prerecording NDA just to know what you have on the car is just asking for trouble. Why don't you just write down the addresses?
     
  18. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    What possible difference could it make if I deliver the NDA on time, at the correct GPS address?
     
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    There would be no difference--- the problems start when you forget that you have them in prerecord.
     
  20. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    If you prerecord you won't get that warning alert and it is also easier to forget one.