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<blockquote data-quote="diesel96" data-source="post: 394067" data-attributes="member: 9859"><p><em>Obviously AV8, your not a Ben Franklin fan for you to get all up in arms over one of his quotes:</em></p><p></p><p>Originally Posted by <strong>diesel96</strong></p><p><em>"Those who give up liberty for security, deserve niether" Ben Franklin</em></p><p></p><p><em>I don't think Old Ben was neccessarliy focusing on financial security, social security nor healthcare security.</em></p><p> <em>Most common folk would interpet "Liberty as "freedom" and "security" as "safety", "on guard", "freedom from worry"</em></p><p></p><p><em>We've dicussed this issue already, and I gave you and example of abuse of power such as Watergate, and now the gov't has the high tech ability to pry into anybodies privacy without your knowing.</em></p><p></p><p><em>God forbid someone puts up a quote of Thomas Jefferson encouraging "we the people" question our gov't. But I'm begining to see a pattern here.....It's un-American to question a Republican administration but to question a Democratic administration is fair game. Questioning any gov't local, state, federal should be fair game at any level no matter what party. You know, I don't blame Independents and third party indivduals for opting out of the major parties. Maybe they see something we don't, like returning our gov't back to "we the people" instead of making us "safe in our cages" (as Wkmac makes his point without giving his 2 cents).....<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diesel96, post: 394067, member: 9859"] [I]Obviously AV8, your not a Ben Franklin fan for you to get all up in arms over one of his quotes:[/I] Originally Posted by [B]diesel96[/B] [I]"Those who give up liberty for security, deserve niether" Ben Franklin[/I] [I]I don't think Old Ben was neccessarliy focusing on financial security, social security nor healthcare security. Most common folk would interpet "Liberty as "freedom" and "security" as "safety", "on guard", "freedom from worry"[/I] [I]We've dicussed this issue already, and I gave you and example of abuse of power such as Watergate, and now the gov't has the high tech ability to pry into anybodies privacy without your knowing.[/I] [I]God forbid someone puts up a quote of Thomas Jefferson encouraging "we the people" question our gov't. But I'm begining to see a pattern here.....It's un-American to question a Republican administration but to question a Democratic administration is fair game. Questioning any gov't local, state, federal should be fair game at any level no matter what party. You know, I don't blame Independents and third party indivduals for opting out of the major parties. Maybe they see something we don't, like returning our gov't back to "we the people" instead of making us "safe in our cages" (as Wkmac makes his point without giving his 2 cents).....:peaceful:[/I] [/QUOTE]
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