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<blockquote data-quote="av8torntn" data-source="post: 394605" data-attributes="member: 8259"><p>First of all my point is war costs while authorized by the constitution eventually end and your social programs while not authorized by the constitution go on forever and the costs are indefinite. In fifteen years the government expects a 100 billion dollar a year deficit. That means they will be spending 100 billion dollars a year more than they take in. How much are they taking in on the payroll tax you ask. No I think you would rather ignore that.</p><p></p><p>Yes you must hate the poor. You want a higher minimum wage to price more people out of the labor market. You want higher corporate taxes to increase the costs of goods and services. This of course impacts the poor more than the rich. You want higher payroll taxes. Harm the rich? Nope you guessed it harm the poor.</p><p></p><p>You really do not want to talk about health care. You really do want to harm the poor by bringing in more security from the federal government to the health care market. Just look at how the prices have risen almost in direct proportion to the increase of government regulation in the health care market. Yep you do not want the poor to have access to quality health care. You want more regulation so in effect you want higher health care costs which in turn harms who? Oh thats right the poor.</p><p></p><p>Yes I want to protect the rich from the evils of social security but unlike you I also want to protect the poor from this goofy social experiment. What is the cost of social security? LOL you have no idea and neither does anyone else because it is a never ending nightmare.</p><p></p><p>Oh by the way how do you figure the founders wanted our government to provide for the medical care, retirement, or mandate a minimum wage for citizens? I know how we ended up here but why do you hate poor people so much that you wish to continue these programs?</p><p></p><p>While we are at it lets get rid of Federal student loans. They drive up the cost of tuition. This in turn does not harm the rich.</p><p></p><p>While you love Medicare, with the federal government pumping all this money into the market, you are essentially driving up the costs of medical care. You must not want the poor to have health care. </p><p></p><p>Just a little something for you so you know how much liberty you are giving up for your security.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="av8torntn, post: 394605, member: 8259"] First of all my point is war costs while authorized by the constitution eventually end and your social programs while not authorized by the constitution go on forever and the costs are indefinite. In fifteen years the government expects a 100 billion dollar a year deficit. That means they will be spending 100 billion dollars a year more than they take in. How much are they taking in on the payroll tax you ask. No I think you would rather ignore that. Yes you must hate the poor. You want a higher minimum wage to price more people out of the labor market. You want higher corporate taxes to increase the costs of goods and services. This of course impacts the poor more than the rich. You want higher payroll taxes. Harm the rich? Nope you guessed it harm the poor. You really do not want to talk about health care. You really do want to harm the poor by bringing in more security from the federal government to the health care market. Just look at how the prices have risen almost in direct proportion to the increase of government regulation in the health care market. Yep you do not want the poor to have access to quality health care. You want more regulation so in effect you want higher health care costs which in turn harms who? Oh thats right the poor. Yes I want to protect the rich from the evils of social security but unlike you I also want to protect the poor from this goofy social experiment. What is the cost of social security? LOL you have no idea and neither does anyone else because it is a never ending nightmare. Oh by the way how do you figure the founders wanted our government to provide for the medical care, retirement, or mandate a minimum wage for citizens? I know how we ended up here but why do you hate poor people so much that you wish to continue these programs? While we are at it lets get rid of Federal student loans. They drive up the cost of tuition. This in turn does not harm the rich. While you love Medicare, with the federal government pumping all this money into the market, you are essentially driving up the costs of medical care. You must not want the poor to have health care. Just a little something for you so you know how much liberty you are giving up for your security. [/QUOTE]
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