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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 679465" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>tie</p><p> </p><p>on the issue with the three point harness, why do they install them on all new vehicles? is it because someone thought it a good idea one day, and figured out how to add another $2 to the cost of the package car? dont think so. it was a safety move, pure and simple. and this one issue has been danced around at ups for too many years not to have had it addressed both by ups, and the union.</p><p> </p><p>the argument you use is like saying that we will wait until somone gets their hands and feet caught in a conveyor belt before we need to look at it as an issue. that is not the case, and you damn well know it. in the case of conveyors, ups waited until how many dozens if not hundreds of employees were killed and maimed before they actually did something about it. and then, they only did the "right thing" because osha forced them to do it.</p><p> </p><p>as part of their function, the safety committee is charged with identification of possible safety issues that can cause death or bodily injury. this is one of those issues that very well can do both. so it is a very valid point. please note, this is preventive safety work. you see, because of our work in safety, we will actually prevent that injury to the brain, or death. and that is much better than going back after the fact and saying well maybe if we retrofitted.........</p><p> </p><p>sober, dont back off. never. </p><p> </p><p>as far as being on the committee, ive said it before, and i will repeat it again. </p><p> </p><p>the safety committee at your building is what you make of it. </p><p> </p><p>if all you want to do is sit on the outside while others try to work on issues, then you get what you get.</p><p> </p><p>if you let your management team roll all over the committee, with no say from the hourly, then you deserve what you get.</p><p> </p><p>there is a direct correlation between serious employee activity and envolvement, and the results you will see in your building.</p><p> </p><p>it is a shame more managers dont understand that.</p><p> </p><p>one last note, as to the verbage that drivers are asked to spout, when management takes pcm training sessions seriously, instead of the "we've got 6 minutes to take the test, here are the answers" that we all see, then we will take the reciting in front of ketter seriously as well.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 679465, member: 484"] tie on the issue with the three point harness, why do they install them on all new vehicles? is it because someone thought it a good idea one day, and figured out how to add another $2 to the cost of the package car? dont think so. it was a safety move, pure and simple. and this one issue has been danced around at ups for too many years not to have had it addressed both by ups, and the union. the argument you use is like saying that we will wait until somone gets their hands and feet caught in a conveyor belt before we need to look at it as an issue. that is not the case, and you damn well know it. in the case of conveyors, ups waited until how many dozens if not hundreds of employees were killed and maimed before they actually did something about it. and then, they only did the "right thing" because osha forced them to do it. as part of their function, the safety committee is charged with identification of possible safety issues that can cause death or bodily injury. this is one of those issues that very well can do both. so it is a very valid point. please note, this is preventive safety work. you see, because of our work in safety, we will actually prevent that injury to the brain, or death. and that is much better than going back after the fact and saying well maybe if we retrofitted......... sober, dont back off. never. as far as being on the committee, ive said it before, and i will repeat it again. the safety committee at your building is what you make of it. if all you want to do is sit on the outside while others try to work on issues, then you get what you get. if you let your management team roll all over the committee, with no say from the hourly, then you deserve what you get. there is a direct correlation between serious employee activity and envolvement, and the results you will see in your building. it is a shame more managers dont understand that. one last note, as to the verbage that drivers are asked to spout, when management takes pcm training sessions seriously, instead of the "we've got 6 minutes to take the test, here are the answers" that we all see, then we will take the reciting in front of ketter seriously as well. d [/QUOTE]
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