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Retired 22 years
Longer progression? 3 years isn't long enough?
When I started in 71 it took all of 90 days to get up to full scale.
Longer progression? 3 years isn't long enough?
When I started in 71 it took all of 90 days to get up to full scale.
Work 2-3 days a week around here for an extended time and you'll be getting a COBRA notice in the mail. Then you'll be paying for those full benefits.Sounds like a perfect way to ease into retirement. Work 2 to 3 days a week while collecting full benefits. Will have to mention this to my sup.
Can put the blue vest of Walmart on hold for a little longer!
Same as Upstate here. If they break your route out you can bump a junior guy or go home, your choice. Unless they're breaking a route out because they literally don't have enough drivers, but I can't remember the last time that's been the case.So in your center if your route is broken up you don't have to work?
Work 2-3 days a week around here for an extended time and you'll be getting a COBRA notice in the mail. Then you'll be paying for those full benefits.
Same as Upstate here. If they break your route out you can bump a junior guy or go home, your choice. Unless they're breaking a route out because they literally don't have enough drivers, but I can't remember the last time that's been the case.
That's the way to setup future generations!I dont see it happenning those of us who were around in 97 prolly dont want to live thru that again.
Same as Upstate here. If they break your route out you can bump a junior guy or go home, your choice. Unless they're breaking a route out because they literally don't have enough drivers, but I can't remember the last time that's been the case.
You can thank these drivers to contributing to the reduction of drivers on the payroll. This is long-term debt that UPS is trying to reduce.Not true in my local. All we have to do is work at least one day a week and all benefits are paid. Have known my drivers over the years who have gone out this way. Route doesn't have to be broken. We can volunteer to take layoff days from the top of seniority list on down whenever excess drivers are available. At present, I have a driver in my loop who only works 2 or 3 days a week now.
Wow, I just read this article, http://www.isreview.org/issues/55/bigbrown.shtml.
Amazing how much the early to mid 90's leading up to August 97 sounds a lot like the enviroment we are working in now.
“totalitarian workplace”
“a combination of the Marine Corps and the Quakers.”
"supervisors relentlessly pushed and harassed their workers for greater productivity"
"pressure to complete anywhere from 150 to 200 stops "
"University of Illinois, conducted a nationwide study involving 317 package car drivers at an “unnamed delivery company” that was obviously UPS. It concluded: “This study suggests that job stress is a psychological health hazard for these drivers.”
found in the study that was quoted "indicating a substantial increase in psychologic distress for this group."
Just making the point the door is already open for same job different pay no matter the progression period.2 tiered within the same classification with a lower top rate and longer progression for new hires.
Everyone should have 3-6 months living expenses ( more would be better ) regardless in savings . just common sense.
What plan do you have that replaces common sense and planning for hard times?You are right common sense. Like common sense you will continue to make more each year you work. Everything will go according to plans etc.That is called hope and common sense tells one to plan for the worst. The problem is tons of us lost 100's of thousands recently, took pay cuts or worse lost a job and got another at 1/2 the rate. When the common person wages go backwards in whole (and they have), doom is around the corner.This is when the common sense of putting back a "rainy day" fund comes into play. It's a terrible sign that even the richest people should fear. So having 3-6 months in the bank sounds good,I can tell you from personal experience it is better than good, it can be a life saver. until someone takes it basically away from us for one reason or another.Basically, I have never met that someone in my 58yrs. I'm done with old time economic sayings, it's like being oblivious to what is really happening around us.Hopefully, you are young and will not have to learn the hard way that the reality of economics is a constant fact of life.
Kraft dinner,and the Schwartz to carry onWhat plan do you have that replaces common sense and planning for hard times?
true that. If I have learned anything from Obama, its that being in a lot of debt can be solved by accruing even more debt. who needs 3-6 months savings when I can just open another credit carddebt ceiling is the flavor of the month.
true that. If I have learned anything from Obama, its that being in a lot of debt can be solved by accruing even more debt. who needs 3-6 months savings when I can just open another credit card
BA, stop confusing people with facts.You do know that Bush raised the debt ceiling about six times during his presidency, don't you?
You do know that Bush raised the debt ceiling about six times during his presidency, don't you?
well whats worse?.... being an idiot(bush), or making the same dumb mistakes as one(obama).You do know that Bush raised the debt ceiling about six times during his presidency, don't you?