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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 977959" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>CharleyHustle;</p><p></p><p>Perhaps you haven't noticed, but many (in terms of real numbers) HAVE "take[n] their services to a non-union company like say... FedEx"....or do you believe that those hundreds of thousands of FedEx jobs which NON-union employees have chosen to fill don't exist?</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but I come from a time when those jobs DIDN'T exist...and I doubt that they'd exist today if it weren't for the intransigence of the Teamsters. As for decertification, have you been following the statistics of union membership in the private sector today...or noticed the incredible number of jobs that HAVE been "decertified" in one way or another?</p><p></p><p>Lastly, if it's NOT the "go-getters" (the most cost-effective) who choose to be non-union, then why are so many companies making it clear that they would prefer to NOT have a "union" workforce? Seems to me that if "union" was the most cost-effective option, companies would be falling all over themselves to be organized. Is that what's happening? Are companies, for example, migrating to NON-"RTW" states? If so, how does one explain the movement of Cat's Electro-Motive work from Ontario to a plant in Indiana....immediately AFTER Indiana passed RTW legislation? Or, speaking of Indiana again, why did Honda choose to place an automotive plant in Indiana in a locale that was traditionally NON-union in lieu of establishing it in the heavily UAW-organized areas of north central Indiana? Or go to the extreme of saying that it would hire only from the counties immediately surrounding that facility, thus effectively locking-out (in terms of employment) the [supposedly] "experienced", RIFed auto workers in Delaware, Madison, and similar UAW-strong counties? Or how does one explain Boeing's choice of of S.C. over (traditional) Washington for the opening of its new aircraft assembly plant? Or all the "foreign" auto makers that chose to open plants in MS, AL, SC, TN, etc?</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but reality is reality....the point being that workers generally are NOT choosing to be "thrown in"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 977959, member: 16651"] CharleyHustle; Perhaps you haven't noticed, but many (in terms of real numbers) HAVE "take[n] their services to a non-union company like say... FedEx"....or do you believe that those hundreds of thousands of FedEx jobs which NON-union employees have chosen to fill don't exist? Sorry, but I come from a time when those jobs DIDN'T exist...and I doubt that they'd exist today if it weren't for the intransigence of the Teamsters. As for decertification, have you been following the statistics of union membership in the private sector today...or noticed the incredible number of jobs that HAVE been "decertified" in one way or another? Lastly, if it's NOT the "go-getters" (the most cost-effective) who choose to be non-union, then why are so many companies making it clear that they would prefer to NOT have a "union" workforce? Seems to me that if "union" was the most cost-effective option, companies would be falling all over themselves to be organized. Is that what's happening? Are companies, for example, migrating to NON-"RTW" states? If so, how does one explain the movement of Cat's Electro-Motive work from Ontario to a plant in Indiana....immediately AFTER Indiana passed RTW legislation? Or, speaking of Indiana again, why did Honda choose to place an automotive plant in Indiana in a locale that was traditionally NON-union in lieu of establishing it in the heavily UAW-organized areas of north central Indiana? Or go to the extreme of saying that it would hire only from the counties immediately surrounding that facility, thus effectively locking-out (in terms of employment) the [supposedly] "experienced", RIFed auto workers in Delaware, Madison, and similar UAW-strong counties? Or how does one explain Boeing's choice of of S.C. over (traditional) Washington for the opening of its new aircraft assembly plant? Or all the "foreign" auto makers that chose to open plants in MS, AL, SC, TN, etc? Sorry, but reality is reality....the point being that workers generally are NOT choosing to be "thrown in" [/QUOTE]
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