Scooter Libby`s prison time commuted!

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by DorkHead, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. DorkHead

    DorkHead Active Member

    No prison time for Scooter. The Teflon that this administration wears is invinceable. I`m sure this is going to be another hurdle for the Republican party to overcome for the upcoming 2008 election. The Dems must be loving it, and rightly so. Would love to hear what people are thinking?
     
  2. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    I personally think it was a political mistake at the least for the obvious reasons that the demos will get a lot of mileage from it. However, I think that mileage will be short lived and in a few weeks the hot topic will be something else. Repubs have paraded themselves as the "law and order" party and this does not sit well to fit and foster that role model IMO.

    What may get more mileage in the longer term is the statement released by Fred Thompson on this issue:

    The dems will obviously try and make as much of this as they can so I'd venture to say over the next few weeks this will dominate more than Bush's actions in this matter. The Bush move whether now or in late December of next year was expected. I do believe Bush will grant a full pardon in the last days before his term ends so don't be surprised when that does happen. His move right now is to spare Libby from jail but also to limit the fallout leaving the felony record in tack along with the probation and fines.

    This whole issue of pardons and clemency will be in the media for the next few days and I'd imagine Bush will get his record looked at. Might be good idea to consider past Presidents actions when looking at this issue.

    President Clinton
    http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

    President Bush (Bush 1) Only one term's worth
    http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/bushgrants.htm

    Presidential Pardons for 1945 thru 2001
    http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/actions_administration.htm

    Current Bush in not compiled into complete form as his term is not finished but you can search a year to year breakdown if you like.

    Let me just say this in closing about this Scooter Libby deal. I do think Washington needed a lamb to be sacrificed for the good of the public and whether it was in some dark room or circumstances just worked out that Scooter became the little lamb, someone needed to be thrown to the wolves so the eye of the pubic would look no further. And I mean looking at both sides. Washington is a corrupt sleazy cesspool of criminals in 3 piece suits IMO and this whole thing was nothing more than sport to these guys. In the few days ahead, the sport will continue and the hope is to have all of us look elsewhere while they continue the game of, and to quote the line from a famous AC/DC song, "dirty deeds done dirt cheap!"

    The most powerful weapon you can use against these guys is sitting right before you and the ammo is a matter of a few keystrokes away.
    SEARCH! SEARCH! SEARCH! READ! READ! READ! And then share with your friends, neighbors, etc. The failed immigration bill clearly showed these guys are all about appearance and image and lack very little understanding of the issues and how we feel out here in the real world.

    There's one thing that the politicos of Washington fear more than a 1000 Osama's at the stick of a 1000 747's and that is a well informed and educated citizenery that they can't manipulate with smoke and mirrors and other black opts games. Don't be their victim, learn all you can on these issues and don't be afraid to consider all points of view! You never know where good info will come from.

    JMO
     
  3. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Make note of the quotes for the sake of history. You may find in the future that circumstances like this will appear again but the players have changed sides of the ball. When this happens the actions are the same but the spin is oh so different from both sides. Mark it down because my guess is these words will come back to haunt them!
     
  4. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    Dear president bush, i have several parking tickets that i dont feel liike paying, can you help me out and make them vanish. I will forever be in your debt, and will proudly be the only voter for any republican in the upcoming election!
     
  5. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    Im only hoping Jim trafficant will be next.
     
  6. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Excellent move by our President. I'm always impressed by how he backs his people completely! If only our management team at UPS was like that!

    Hopefully a full pardon will be next.
     
  7. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    As I said, I think a full pardon is a given.
     
  8. daytonupsfreightguy

    daytonupsfreightguy freight relocation guru

    Hats off to George W Bush,for pardoning scooter Libby,the whole thing was nothing more than a fishing expedition anyway,created by the elected socialists,and marxists in our own government.
     
  9. Alex Jones

    Alex Jones Guest

    Good now he can write a sequel to "The Apprentice" Bush loves these good clean American novelists! Ron Paul for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. Towely

    Towely Member

    The dems will be smart if they simply let this one fly. Scooter Libby should have been pardoned. If the dems try and rake the republicans over the coals for this all the republicans will have to do is start digging up Clinton record(who pardoned something like 4x as many people as Bush did).

    Don't get your panties in a wad, every president pardons people. Some way more than others *cough*clinton*cough*.
     
  11. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    Scooter Libby was convicted of lying under oath. Bill Clinton did the same thing. The most famous Clinton quote from his Presidency will be "I did not have sex with that woman", before Monica's blue dress came out of the closet. I have always wondered about the double standards in Washington. One thing that I will never understand is why Sandy Berger steals and destroys classified documents and nothing has been done to him. :confused:1
     
  12. Towely

    Towely Member

    Well now, that all depends on what your definition of "is" is... :wink:

    In all seriousness though I would blame most of the double standard on the media.
     
  13. Alex Jones

    Alex Jones Guest

    Towley. I guess you never read the apprebtice.