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<blockquote data-quote="canon" data-source="post: 173900" data-attributes="member: 8423"><p>i don't like the term scoundrel, I think it's a bit harsh. And everyone in mgmt is dishonest? Not even close. We can only comment on the centers we are experienced with. From another thread dealing with the negativity of themes:</p><p></p><p></p><p>So far in this thread, we've only heard one mgmt person who doesn't have an actual membership address life when it's not so good:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Channahon denies fudging numbers was a practice in her centers, tieguy would never answer the question directly when I asked if he ever "made up mistakes" on space and visibility rides or fudge numbers to stay off the radar. And I have yet to see one driver who doesn't have an experience with someone in mgmt instructing them to do something, or know about a situation a supe engages, in which would be viewed as falsifying documents if Loss Prevention was clued in on whatever practice.</p><p></p><p>Over9five described it best saying it has been recently magnified (introduction of PAS time allowances). It's not stereotyping to highlight incidents which occur in our centers. Labeling mgmt as scoundrels is. Most separate the two and agree it's not a hatred of mgmt, rather an acknowledgment of the level of "fudging" which goes on in the mgmt ranks. If we get caught trying to play the numbers game dishonestly, we get in trouble too. There are dishonest drivers, no doubt about it. But in playing the numbers game most drivers know they don't have to because the union doesn't recognize company production standards.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If I gave the impression that I thought "everyone" in mgmt is a scoundrel, I do apologize. I certainly dont. </p><p></p><p>I'll have to distance myself from the "racial stereotyping", not sure if you're implying accusations of mgmt dishonesty equals racial intonations from the people posting. But it is a good question, especially since ups hires from within. Should "runners" be drivers? I've known drivers who cut every corner and do the sloppiest work be praised by mgmt simply because they make the numbers sing. One of those people I know has been fired twice for falsifying documents, and continues to cut corners to this day. </p><p></p><p>Everyone just wants to be recognized for doing a good job. The impossible level of performance corporate expects, and disciplines for, causes some very decent people to resort to some unethical practices. And it's much more widespread than some care to admit judging from the responses in here. Maybe a poll is in order asking if the current mgmt team they report to engages in number fudging. To be fair, it does appear one sided... I'd have my own stories in a thread dealing with driver number fudging and dishonesty amongst hourlies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="canon, post: 173900, member: 8423"] i don't like the term scoundrel, I think it's a bit harsh. And everyone in mgmt is dishonest? Not even close. We can only comment on the centers we are experienced with. From another thread dealing with the negativity of themes: So far in this thread, we've only heard one mgmt person who doesn't have an actual membership address life when it's not so good: Channahon denies fudging numbers was a practice in her centers, tieguy would never answer the question directly when I asked if he ever "made up mistakes" on space and visibility rides or fudge numbers to stay off the radar. And I have yet to see one driver who doesn't have an experience with someone in mgmt instructing them to do something, or know about a situation a supe engages, in which would be viewed as falsifying documents if Loss Prevention was clued in on whatever practice. Over9five described it best saying it has been recently magnified (introduction of PAS time allowances). It's not stereotyping to highlight incidents which occur in our centers. Labeling mgmt as scoundrels is. Most separate the two and agree it's not a hatred of mgmt, rather an acknowledgment of the level of "fudging" which goes on in the mgmt ranks. If we get caught trying to play the numbers game dishonestly, we get in trouble too. There are dishonest drivers, no doubt about it. But in playing the numbers game most drivers know they don't have to because the union doesn't recognize company production standards. If I gave the impression that I thought "everyone" in mgmt is a scoundrel, I do apologize. I certainly dont. I'll have to distance myself from the "racial stereotyping", not sure if you're implying accusations of mgmt dishonesty equals racial intonations from the people posting. But it is a good question, especially since ups hires from within. Should "runners" be drivers? I've known drivers who cut every corner and do the sloppiest work be praised by mgmt simply because they make the numbers sing. One of those people I know has been fired twice for falsifying documents, and continues to cut corners to this day. Everyone just wants to be recognized for doing a good job. The impossible level of performance corporate expects, and disciplines for, causes some very decent people to resort to some unethical practices. And it's much more widespread than some care to admit judging from the responses in here. Maybe a poll is in order asking if the current mgmt team they report to engages in number fudging. To be fair, it does appear one sided... I'd have my own stories in a thread dealing with driver number fudging and dishonesty amongst hourlies. [/QUOTE]
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