Seasonal helper in NJ paying union dues...

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by bonrep, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. bonrep

    bonrep New Member

    Received no information regarding union membership or dues when hired, filled out no paperwork other than designating a beneficiary in the event of my accidental demise. i am grateful to be working, if only for a short time, and am losing three hours of pay per week for dues..
    I would just like to know what I am paying for... any information appreciated...
  2. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    We pay our leadership quite well. Thanks for helping!
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You are paying an initiation fee for the "privilege" of joining the union. IMO it is totally wrong for the union to extort money from seasonal workers.
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  4. bonrep

    bonrep New Member

    jeez, for ten bucks a month i could have joined a gym and worn cuter least i will be in shape and able to move my furniture in the middle of the night when evicted!
  5. bluehdmc

    bluehdmc Well-Known Member

    I don't believe they can take anything out of your check other than taxes, unless you authorize it.
  6. superbanki87

    superbanki87 New Member

    I'm a seasonal Driver Helper in NJ as well. Just got my check for last week, worked 24 hours (at a ridiculous 8.50/hr), only to find out I lost a whopping $51 in Union Dues for last week! Double checked my check for the week before that, and lost just over $20 in Union Dues (for 18 hours of work).

    What the hell UPS?
  7. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Asked my driver helper this morning about deductions from her first check. Only federal and state taxes taken out.
  8. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    That sucks. Helpers make 12.88 an hour where I'm at.
  9. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    In my local, if you don't work 30 days, you can apply for a full refund.
    That applies year round.
    I think that is fair.
    I have asked the company many times to include this information to these helpers during their orientation, but they won't.

    The other alternative would be for the company to pay them a more appropriate rate of pay, one that makes the job worthwhile.
    If your doing bargaining unit work, you must pay dues in a closed shop.

    Nobody is being extorted.
    Their being shorted on their hourly rate and their orientation.
    The local should insist on being part of the orientation process in the form of a signed acknowledgement by the seasonal employee of their obligation to the union.
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  10. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Not UPS ... it is the local Teamsters.
    It's not right but that's the way the Teamsters play ball there.
    You can try at the Union hall to get them to return the seized funds ... they may do it.
  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Yep. My helper makes $12.88 an hour. Central Region.
  12. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    12.88 here also. Gave my runner his first check today. I will get the question Monday, what is this initiation coming off of my check?
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    If it were just the union dues I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it. I am talking about the $500 initiation fees that some locals are extorting from their seasonal workers. To me that is reprehensible.
  14. mnovak

    mnovak New Member

    What are you saying here? I have not worked except for orientation and now you are telling me I have to pay initiation fee plus union dues. Is that tax deductible? Talk about getting kicked when I'm down!
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    In some locations seasonal employees pay an initiation fee (up to $500) and monthly dues.

    Turn in your uniform and pick up your check tomorrow.
  16. mnovak

    mnovak New Member

    I'll wail until December 31, 2013 to turn in uniform that is when the job offically ends. I'm no quitter! Thank You
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Unless you plan on going Trick or Treating you won't be needing it.
  18. macg4ira

    macg4ira New Member

    Somebody has to pay for the fat cat union bosses lifestyle they've come to expect:
  19. cb1969

    cb1969 Member

    Sorry, I understand. It is your state, New Jersey is a union state. You should have been informed that you would have to pay dues when you were hired. I'm in a right to work state so they don't take out dues until you sign a union card...In your state the have to by law. Again I am I probably would have not take a job for less money then I was told I would receive...HR should have told you about the dues pre-hire...but they don't really care if you stay or not...there are so many behind you and churn and burn seems to be more profitable and the local gets money out of it too!!!!
  20. MassWineGuy

    MassWineGuy Active Member

    It definitely is extortion. Pay the initiation fee and dues or you don't work.

    I've neot heard before of a helper paying these. If it says on your pay stubs that these fees are being deducted, AND you never signed anything agreeing to tho or acknowledging that you understood thia would happen, you can probably get your money back. Each local decides to take these fees or not, so only some of them are blood thirsty leaches.

    Talk to a personnel person at the center your driver worked out of. If you get no satisfaction contact the state attorney general's office.