Seniority skipped over

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by No better job, Sep 23, 2015.

  1. No better job

    No better job New Member

    Looking for some input. Last December i was skipped over for a cover drivers position in favor of another employee with less seniority. I filed a greivance intending to secure any rights I would have had from starting back in December 2015

    I took the next available cover driver slot which came in June of 2016. Now I am sitting home with no work while other drivers with what should be less seniority are driving.

    I have made it through my thirty days but only trained on one run.

    I'm losing big money (for me) and getting little help
    From Union or management. Any suggestions on how to proceed?
     
  2. The Driver

    The Driver Active Member

    Demand your 8?
     
  3. No better job

    No better job New Member

    Would I do that by showing up to work even when told no run is available for me?

    Or just grieve it? I can see my shop Stewart's eyes roll now.
     
  4. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    You said you filed a grievance. When did you file it and what was the outcome?
     
  5. No better job

    No better job New Member

    Filing was timely, the result was a promise to sende to the next school and an apology. Honestly don't tjink it was ever officially resolved
     
  6. No better job

    No better job New Member

    Union tells me to stick
    It out till peak. Then Ill have a plenty of hours
     
  7. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Sounds like it was resolved, in the company's favor.
     
  8. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    "Bump" inside and get your hours.

    In my state, any "lost hours" (partial days) can be filed for unemployment, so I've heard.
     
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  9. Johney

    Johney Raise your hand if you think Upstate is a D-Bag

    I suggest getting a copy of said bid sheet from HR, ask why so & so who has less time than you is now ahead of you on the cover driver list.
     
  10. No better job

    No better job New Member

    Pretty sure my biggest mistake was being patient and trusting that this would be resolved correctly.
     
  11. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Yep.

    If you file a grievance it is your responsibility to follow up on it and be sure that your rights according to the contract are preserved. You allowed the other driver to maintain FT status and now that person has more FT seniority than you and they will always have more FT seniority than you. Now all that you can do is bump into the sort and preload to get your FT hours.
     
  12. No better job

    No better job New Member

    I'll get my seniority. I just have to wait till the new year. I've been with UPS for years as a preloaded. Just switched to cover driving.

    Following up for yourself is a must, but do have a problem with that when 1/4 of the guys I work with don't even know they have health insurance
     
  13. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Dec 2015 and June of 2016????
    These are dates in the future, something seems off with this!
     
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  14. No better job

    No better job New Member

    Oops should be dec 2014 June of 2015.

    Good catch
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Need more info.

    FT cover or PT cover?

    What region?

    These make a difference. In the west we have PT cover drivers. Also seniority is based off who went cover first. So that would mean because you didn't push the issues that you were skipped over you now have to live with what you got.
     
  16. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Yes He should demand he 8. However he also should know that could lead to them laying him off.
     
  17. Tough Guy

    Tough Guy Active Member

    Did the guy who got in ahead of you already have his qualifications, and have driving experience? I've heard the company can pluck drivers with less seniority if they're already qualified ( drove for peak, etc) and has a certain area knowledge. If they do that and the union approves that, it's called a "driver rec". It only applies to workers who have already done driving school and got their qualifications.
     
  18. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    The only way that less seniority people get to drive before more seniority people is if the less seniority person sign a bid or a list of people wanting to go Ft and the person with more seniority didn't. It has nothing to do with where where they where trained already (peak or Pt air driver ). You don't sign the list you loose out....
     
  19. No better job

    No better job New Member

    I signed up for full time cover driver spot. I'm in upstate NY.

    I was mistakenly jumped. An error that was acknowledged by management. That is how the less senior employee was sent to driver school before me. We had both signed for the position. Neither of us had experience both had been working preload.
     
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  20. Johney

    Johney Raise your hand if you think Upstate is a D-Bag

    I'm sorry for you.
     
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