Senority

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Clax777, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. Clax777

    Clax777 New Member

    How do I properly bump someone with lower seniority? And if I'm told "no", how do I handle it professionally?
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You can't just do it on your own. The shift supervisor will take care of it for you.
     
  3. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    What are the specifics of what you want to bump them from? If they say no, work as instructed and grieve it later
     
  4. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    You put on your big boy pants and say "I have more seniority, so I have the right to work over him."
     
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  5. Clax777

    Clax777 New Member

    The supervisor and manager always tell me no because he need me to run what I'm on because the others drivers can't get it done
     
  6. Clax777

    Clax777 New Member

    The supervisor and manager always tell me no because he need me to run what I'm on because the others drivers can't get it done
     
  7. Clax777

    Clax777 New Member

    I work everyday. The problem is that I'm swinging a different route just about everyday when there's 5 lower seniority driver that I've been doing the same route over a year and the excuse is that they can't handle any other route
     
  8. Clax777

    Clax777 New Member

    I've manage to get sent out with 240 all resi everyday when they have lower seniority drivers go out with 170-190 all resi everyday. There excuse is they can't do it.
     
  9. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    I get what you're saying, but from personal experience, they're going to put the people who they know will do the work in the places they need them. If you're being assigned to these routes daily, there's not much you can do. If you're bidding them as a cover driver, then they'll still move you, but you grieve it, and hopefully after a few grievances they'll get the point.
     
  10. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    You tell them:
    " I would like to exercise my right as a senior driver to run route __. I have more seniority than _____."

    They give you whatever reason they want not allowing you to bump said driver.

    "If I'm not allowed to use my seniority I will be filing a grievance."

    They tell you the same excuse or a different one.

    You work as instructed and file a grievance. I would have a shop steward with you as a witness.
     
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  11. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Don't get it done.
     
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  12. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

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  13. box_beeyotch

    box_beeyotch Well-Known Member

    Pretty much.
     
  14. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    You have to push the issue, in a firm but professional manner. When I was cover they tried the same thing with me sometimes. I let it fly a few times and then I told them no more. If driver A knows what I'm on and I know what he's on, I'm bumping. Too bad if he can't get it done. Not my problem. They will walk all over you at this company if you lay down and allow it. The one caveat is the person you are bumping must know the route. You can't bump blind. There performance on said route is meaningless. Not your problem
     
  15. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    Area knowledge isn't an excuse if that's what they are using as one. I don't care if the guy I'm bumping knows it or not. He can learn it today.
     
  16. mikewelch8484

    mikewelch8484 New Member

    Off topic here but in my building they posted a job saying it was a part time cover feeder driver and no one signed it but 2 people and they have been there maybe 6 months now the job had turned into a full time job and my boss and union rep is saying nothing can be done any thoughts??
     
  17. mikewelch8484

    mikewelch8484 New Member

    No where on the bid sheet did it say anything about full time or anything like that we have guys been working preload 8 plus years that would have signed it if it said full time can they do this ?
     
  18. Exactly.
     
  19. atlastitan

    atlastitan New Member

    I'm having a similar issue in the hub. I'm being taken off the pick so that a newer union employee from another area can do it while i load. I am gonna talk to the steward. Hate being stepped all over with dumb excuses.
     
  20. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Can't bump blind here. Covers in my center would have a field day