Setting someone up to fail

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by matty_lawn, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. matty_lawn

    matty_lawn Active Member

    There is a new hire who is about 60 years old on the pick next to mine (preload). The dude is obviously old and not as quick as 20 something's that are on my line. During his first day the pt sup was on this dudes ass to go faster like you wouldn't believe. When it was last cage he was obviously screwed, and made a mess on the line with all the packages. Apparently he had 5 misloads.

    Next day he is on the slide and I spent about 10 minutes there today while my cages were light. Same sup is telling this dude to speed up and berating him in front of the half dozen of us on the slide a few times during the 10 minutes I was there.

    So my question is: do they set up people to fail? My first thought was "they really don't have an easier job for this guy to do?" why would they throw a 60 year old guy on a pick when there is 100 other jobs he can be doing? Has anyone ever seen something like this? It really rubbed me the wrong way

    The sup in question is easily the most easy going and decent person I've met there, which is why it was more confusing.
  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Wow, your building must really be desperate for help. I remember back in the 90's UPS had a van to go around and pick up people for the Midnight sort.
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  3. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    Yup....break him and make him quit in a week, or he wants/needs the job bad enough that he'll take it and come back for more. It's the ups management way.
  4. matty_lawn

    matty_lawn Active Member

  5. matty_lawn

    matty_lawn Active Member

    Oh I get it now. Yes we are. I get an option to come in an hour early every day but 415 is early enough
  6. dookie stain

    dookie stain Well-Known Member

    Yea they do it to a lot of people.
  7. Austin.Was.My.Hero

    Austin.Was.My.Hero quod erat demonstrandum

    My hub is paradise compared to everyone else's, how it sounds.
  8. jaker

    jaker trolling

    All I can say is welcome to ups
  9. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    What's the guy look like?
  10. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

  11. matty_lawn

    matty_lawn Active Member

  12. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Does he wear old spice?
  13. DOK

    DOK Active Member

    Good way to get someone injured.
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Old part timers are disposable.
  15. scooby0048

    scooby0048 This page left intentionally blank

    This is a litigious society and everyone wants a piece of the pie. Yes there are easier jobs but show some favoritism and there will be lawsuits. Set the guy up to fail and this happens:
    • he quits
    • he performs better
    • he fails and is terminated
    It's a win / win for the company even though it is still a form of bullying in the workplace that is harder to prove.
  16. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    sometimes I wonder how much money they spend to hire, background check to only lose them within weeks of hire.
  17. scooby0048

    scooby0048 This page left intentionally blank

    Still a hell of a lot cheaper than the benefits package or a lawsuit.
  18. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Not in the long term.
  19. Billy Ray

    Billy Ray God, help us all.....

    That's an old sumbeech.
  20. scooby0048

    scooby0048 This page left intentionally blank

    I'm certain this is one of those subjects that could be debated till the cows come home. There are too many variables and I have a feeling we both might be right to a degree.