Should I take it

[CJinx]

Shhh.... Making up your own words doesn't make you sound very smart.

It was an accidental portmanteau.

 

[Nolimitz]

Shut up bag..

Interesting. I suggest you join us and I'm the " bag"? You are quite the character.

 

[MAKAVELI]

It was an accidental portmanteau.

That's ok CJ. Even someone as highly educated as yourself makes mistakes once in awhile.

 

[Whocares123]

Like I said we only laugh at the ignorant and arrogant ones such as yourself.

Lol trust, I'm laughing.


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[hypo hanna]

I don't understand why you would wish that on a new person though. If I was there 30 years, I'd show me exactly how I lasted 30 years, not laugh at em for hours until the point they flame out? No wonder your still delivering. Some leader you are, I hope you don't teach your children this. If you have any.


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Since when is it my job to be a leader to the revolving door of new hires? fedex doesn't want to compensate me as a courier, they sure arent going to compensate me to mentor the new guy.
We laugh at the ones who come in assuming they know everything and then throw a hisy fit when they are called on it.
My kids know better the to get involved with a company like fedex. I've made sure of it.

 

[Whocares123]

Since when is it my job to be a leader to the revolving door of new hires? fedex doesn't want to compensate me as a courier, they sure arent going to compensate me to mentor the new guy.
We laugh at the ones who come in assuming they know everything and then throw a hisy fit when they are called on it.
My kids know better the to get involved with a company like fedex. I've made sure of it.

Oh, ok.


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[Whocares123]

Oh, ok.


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If I was new though, and say, you trained me and I knew you were there for 30 years I wouldn't act like I knew everything. I would ask you questions and pick your brain on how to have a career there for 30 years. I understand though, you would leave if you didn't have 30 years in.


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[MAKAVELI]

If I was new though, and say, you trained me and I knew you were there for 30 years I wouldn't act like I knew everything. I would ask you questions and pick your brain on how to have a career there for 30 years. I understand though, you would leave if you didn't have 30 years in.


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There won't be anymore 30 year couriers with the current compensation. Those 30 year vets have topped out pay and a pension. Something you will never see.

 

[Route 66]

Lmao I never threw a "hissy fit". I was just wondering why you guys stayed.


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I'm just making an assumption that you're a 'younger' person.

A lot of us on this board started with this outfit back in the '80s and '90s - back when it was still a desirable company to work for. When we came aboard we were painted a pretty rosy future if we would commit, and their actions at the time seemed to validate their promises. We had better than average pay and benefits, and bonuses for this, that and the other.

Fast forward to the past decade or so where we have seen it all evaporate. Raises (when we get them) are laughable, benefits have eroded while our health care coverage has deteriorated to the point where we literally cannot afford to use it. Our pensions - decimated.

Now go back to the part where I said that many of us started some 25 to 30 years ago or more. What does that mean? It means it's a little late in life for us to cut our losses and start somewhere anew.

Granted, we old-timers have it better than the newer-hires, but we've still been bent over but good. For most of us, staying where we are and riding out our last few years is probably our best option (as unattractive as it may be). We screwed up and gave FedEx our best years - and those are irretrievable, which is something we give no thought to when we're young. Even if by some miracle we do still feel young and healthy, hiring managers at other corporations aren't exactly beating our doors down looking for worn out war horses to sign on with them.

So here we are, yes pissing and moaning about our sorry states, and every so often a guy such as yourself pops in and asks......and we don't pull any punches about how we feel. If we can steer someone else away from this dead-end, then at least we've accomplished something here.

So perhaps you can understand why so many here took umbrage to your combativeness. I guess we could've told you what a warm fuzzy it gives us to come in to work every day and make you feel good for the moment...but how would that have benefitted you in the long run?

Why do the younger ones stay?......that's a mystery to me as well. If I were starting today I'd be quitting tomorrow.

Hope this has helped shed a little light.

 

[White Line]

No I don't think you should take it, you said you worked for Coke, does that mean you have a CDL, if so go hit up some of the LTL companies for a job, better pay and benefits, you mentioned some dislike of the union, but I have to tell you I have yet to hear a ABF driver complain about his or her job they all seem pretty happy there and they are union, the other companies I would look into are UPS Freight, Old Dominion, Oak Harbor (have been hiring), and USF Reddaway (also have been hiring) or Holland depending on what coast you are living on and Saia, LTL companies to be wary of, not saying that they are bad companies or jobs but they are not the best either, would be YRC (only because there has been talk of them going under), Conway Freight (you either love it or hate it in my case I hated it), FedEx Freight (for obvious reasons the defining difference is pallets vs envelopes) and R&L (these guys are a bunch of weirdos).

 

[White Line]

Oh and one other thing if you choose to go that route, I would suggest because you have a family doing local P&D this way you are home everyday, DO NOT GO LINEHAUL, all LTL companies start their linehaul new guys on what they call a extra board, and the extra board is brutal on the family life.

 

[Whocares123]

No I don't think you should take it, you said you worked for Coke, does that mean you have a CDL, if so go hit up some of the LTL companies for a job, better pay and benefits, you mentioned some dislike of the union, but I have to tell you I have yet to hear a ABF driver complain about his or her job they all seem pretty happy there and they are union, the other companies I would look into are UPS Freight, Old Dominion, Oak Harbor (have been hiring), and USF Reddaway (also have been hiring) or Holland depending on what coast you are living on and Saia, LTL companies to be wary of, not saying that they are bad companies or jobs but they are not the best either, would be YRC (only because there has been talk of them going under), Conway Freight (you either love it or hate it in my case I hated it), FedEx Freight (for obvious reasons the defining difference is pallets vs envelopes) and R&L (these guys are a bunch of weirdos).

Yes I have my cdls, and my father actually works for ABF been there for 20 years. Unfortunately, it to has gone down hill..they still get compensated very well, there have been cut backs on pay they lost a week of vaca, he was telling me you have to be there 8 years now to even get 2 years vaca, been talks of them getting bought out. I guess that CEO is a real SOB, she said no truck driver in the world deserves to make 80k a year. I've heard SAIA is just as bad as coke in my area but they pay really good even have a 3k sign on bonus. I've heard Conway stinks, haven't heard to much about R&L but have heard that they are weird lol. All of em are hiring but they all have the same problem, to many chiefs and not enough Indians.


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[hypo hanna]

I'm just making an assumption that you're a 'younger' person.

A lot of us on this board started with this outfit back in the '80s and '90s - back when it was still a desirable company to work for. When we came aboard we were painted a pretty rosy future if we would commit, and their actions at the time seemed to validate their promises. We had better than average pay and benefits, and bonuses for this, that and the other.

Fast forward to the past decade or so where we have seen it all evaporate. Raises (when we get them) are laughable, benefits have eroded while our health care coverage has deteriorated to the point where we literally cannot afford to use it. Our pensions - decimated.

Now go back to the part where I said that many of us started some 25 to 30 years ago or more. What does that mean? It means it's a little late in life for us to cut our losses and start somewhere anew.

Granted, we old-timers have it better than the newer-hires, but we've still been bent over but good. For most of us, staying where we are and riding out our last few years is probably our best option (as unattractive as it may be). We screwed up and gave FedEx our best years - and those are irretrievable, which is something we give no thought to when we're young. Even if by some miracle we do still feel young and healthy, hiring managers at other corporations aren't exactly beating our doors down looking for worn out war horses to sign on with them.

So here we are, yes pissing and moaning about our sorry states, and every so often a guy such as yourself pops in and asks......and we don't pull any punches about how we feel. If we can steer someone else away from this dead-end, then at least we've accomplished something here.

So perhaps you can understand why so many here took umbrage to your combativeness. I guess we could've told you what a warm fuzzy it gives us to come in to work every day and make you feel good for the moment...but how would that have benefitted you in the long run?

Why do the younger ones stay?......that's a mystery to me as well. If I were starting today I'd be quitting tomorrow.

Hope this has helped shed a little light.

I could not have said it better myself.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I guess that CEO is a real SOB, she said no truck driver in the world deserves to make 80k a year.

She is right.

 

[Whocares123]

She is right.

Oh yea? Elaborate?


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[Whocares123]

I'm just making an assumption that you're a 'younger' person.

A lot of us on this board started with this outfit back in the '80s and '90s - back when it was still a desirable company to work for. When we came aboard we were painted a pretty rosy future if we would commit, and their actions at the time seemed to validate their promises. We had better than average pay and benefits, and bonuses for this, that and the other.

Fast forward to the past decade or so where we have seen it all evaporate. Raises (when we get them) are laughable, benefits have eroded while our health care coverage has deteriorated to the point where we literally cannot afford to use it. Our pensions - decimated.

Now go back to the part where I said that many of us started some 25 to 30 years ago or more. What does that mean? It means it's a little late in life for us to cut our losses and start somewhere anew.

Granted, we old-timers have it better than the newer-hires, but we've still been bent over but good. For most of us, staying where we are and riding out our last few years is probably our best option (as unattractive as it may be). We screwed up and gave FedEx our best years - and those are irretrievable, which is something we give no thought to when we're young. Even if by some miracle we do still feel young and healthy, hiring managers at other corporations aren't exactly beating our doors down looking for worn out war horses to sign on with them.

So here we are, yes pissing and moaning about our sorry states, and every so often a guy such as yourself pops in and asks......and we don't pull any punches about how we feel. If we can steer someone else away from this dead-end, then at least we've accomplished something here.

So perhaps you can understand why so many here took umbrage to your combativeness. I guess we could've told you what a warm fuzzy it gives us to come in to work every day and make you feel good for the moment...but how would that have benefitted you in the long run?

Why do the younger ones stay?......that's a mystery to me as well. If I were starting today I'd be quitting tomorrow.

Hope this has helped shed a little light.

Yes actually that helped a lot. Better than getting behind a keyboard and being a cyber bully calling me a purple kool-aid drinking troll. Seems every company is heading this way. Tenured guys at coke told me to run as far away as fast as I can. I truly hope you get to enjoy retirement.


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[hypo hanna]

I guess that CEO is a real SOB, she said no truck driver in the world deserves to make 80k a year. App

And no CEO deserves to be paid a ratio of 331:1 to their average employees compensation.
(2013 stats for US companies.)

 

[Whocares123]

And no CEO deserves to be paid a ratio of 331:1 to their average employee.
(2013 stats for US companies.)

That we can agree on.


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[Cactus]

All of em are hiring but they all have the same problem, too many chiefs and not enough Indians.

Welcome to our world. A lot of worthless dead weight still infiltrates the Memphis corporate offices.

 

[vantexan]

She is right.

Seems quite a few trucking companies disagree with you. Over the road drivers who are away for weeks, even months, from their families certainly deserve high compensation and the companies pay that to keep them.