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Signing a warning ltr, what do you think?
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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 685720" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>generally, by signing it, all you are doing is saying they covered it with you. without your signature, all they do is put the date, time and persons present on the form stating they covered it with you.</p><p> </p><p>a warning letter is not a legal document unless they send you and the union a copy via certified mail. without that certified mailed letter, a warning letter you did not get.</p><p> </p><p>until you actually get the certified mailed letter, you dont have grounds to file on what you did not get. kinda like using a fire extinguisher to put out a fire, without the fire even being started.</p><p> </p><p>i always refused to sign anything that was not a requirement of the job. and for sure, never sign something you have not read completely, regardless of what you think it is.</p><p> </p><p>signing with an x is not really a good idea. if you end up at a hearing where they are trying to prove your arrogance to instruction or training, it could come back to haunt you, esp if you end up in front of an arbitrator.</p><p> </p><p>all you do is politely refuse to sign. end of story.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 685720, member: 484"] generally, by signing it, all you are doing is saying they covered it with you. without your signature, all they do is put the date, time and persons present on the form stating they covered it with you. a warning letter is not a legal document unless they send you and the union a copy via certified mail. without that certified mailed letter, a warning letter you did not get. until you actually get the certified mailed letter, you dont have grounds to file on what you did not get. kinda like using a fire extinguisher to put out a fire, without the fire even being started. i always refused to sign anything that was not a requirement of the job. and for sure, never sign something you have not read completely, regardless of what you think it is. signing with an x is not really a good idea. if you end up at a hearing where they are trying to prove your arrogance to instruction or training, it could come back to haunt you, esp if you end up in front of an arbitrator. all you do is politely refuse to sign. end of story. d [/QUOTE]
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