Smart pickups/SPORH

[selfcancelsignal]

Anyone know if stop counts go up if customers decide to become smart pickups? I've been on 2 different bid routes in the last year where 3 or 4 customers decided to become smart pickups, & I swear they gave & now give me more stops. More of a detriment than a benefit for customers to go smart pickup if this is in fact the case!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Smart pickups do not come off the log unless they have not processed any packages within an hour of their pickup time. I have 4 of them and my dispatch had not changed.

 

[TooTechie]

What Dave said. Your planned day includes the pickups so shouldn't affect the dispatch, however if they don't ship that day and it comes out of your board you don't get "credit" for the pickup and your actual day doesn't include credit for the stop as you didn't do it.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I just found my Walmart Vision center pickup is being converted to a Smart P/U. They ship out something every day so this doesn't make sense to me.

 

[TooTechie]

I just found my Walmart Vision center pickup is being converted to a Smart P/U. They ship out something every day so this doesn't make sense to me.

It's probably a global change to save a little money. A Walmart Supercenter I used to do had a vision center that usually had about 2-3 envelopes going out every night, but 1 or 2 days a week they'd have nothing for me.

 

[StopTheAct]

Your stops as re going to go up nomatter what...

 

[Jackburton]

For those that care, ORION factors in miles for smart pickups, regardless if you go there or not.

 

[Dr.Brownz]

Your stops as re going to go up nomatter what...

Nope, thats the attitude UPS wants you to have.

Slow down, use the methods, take all breaks (paid and unpaid, you know you get 3 paid 10 minute breaks in the west right?) and you will win every time. If they are telling you to go help this driver or that driver you take your second lunch everyday till that stops

 

[Dr.Brownz]

For those that care, ORION factors in miles for smart pickups, regardless if you go there or not.

Thats so they can over how good their numbers look that day not realizing that the driver didn't have that pickup

 

[box_beeyotch]

For those that care, ORION factors in miles for smart pickups, regardless if you go there or not.

It also doesn't take into count the pick ups you make when you deliver to the business. It projects miles based on driving from your last stop to that particular pick up at scheduled time.

 

[soberups]

For those that care, ORION factors in miles for smart pickups, regardless if you go there or not.

True....but in my case at least it frequently has me picking them up before 9:00 AM or after 5:00PM. Yet another reason for me to ignore it.

 

[By The Book]

Anyone know if stop counts go up if customers decide to become smart pickups? I've been on 2 different bid routes in the last year where 3 or 4 customers decided to become smart pickups, & I swear they gave & now give me more stops. More of a detriment than a benefit for customers to go smart pickup if this is in fact the case!

If these customers go smart pickup and you get a few more stops how is that a detriment for the customer? They don't ship out on occasion and you don't go there to pickup, am I missing something?

 

[By The Book]

True....but in my case at least it frequently has me picking them up before 9:00 AM or after 5:00PM. Yet another reason for me to ignore it.

We already know you get a free pass on most things, just add this to the list,lol.

 

[soberups]

We already know you get a free pass on most things, just add this to the list,lol.

I dont get a "free pass" on anything.

I am being given conflicting instructions, and am doing the best I can to follow the ones that make the most sense.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

We already know you get a free pass on most things, just add this to the list,lol.

I dont get a "free pass" on anything.

I am being given conflicting instructions, and am doing the best I can to follow the ones that make the most sense.

Free pass.

 

[Shifting Contents]

True....but in my case at least it frequently has me picking them up before 9:00 AM or after 5:00PM. Yet another reason for me to ignore it.

There's a route I cover that has a smart pick up that is also an authorized early pick up with a NLT 1800 commit.

Orion consistently has you break off at 1 in the afternoon for a round trip of 3 miles to go to this pick up even though it won't cancel till 1700. Also there is a 1700 regular pick up the next street over. Needless to say, everyone is about 6 miles under plan on that route

 

[selfcancelsignal]

If these customers go smart pickup and you get a few more stops how is that a detriment for the customer? They don't ship out on occasion and you don't go there to pickup, am I missing something?

Yeah, after re reading the post, the detriment isn't to the customer, it's to me. Haha.

 

[Brownslave688]

Your stops as re going to go up nomatter what...

Yep. Been happening for years.

 

[By The Book]

I dont get a "free pass" on anything.

I am being given conflicting instructions, and am doing the best I can to follow the ones that make the most sense.

Just giving you a hard time, as most of their Orion metrics don't seem to be effective on your route.

 

[By The Book]

Yeah, after re reading the post, the detriment isn't to the customer, it's to me. Haha.

Thought so, sounds like they are averaging out the amount of smart pickups and adding in delivery stops to keep the stops per car metric up.