Snow Day!!!!

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Cementups, Feb 10, 2010.

  1. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    Got to play phone tag today with the bosses while they were waiting for the big wigs to learn to be compassionate and actually make it safety first and give us the day off instead of having us attempting to deliver packages in 20"+ of fresh snow, on top of the 20" we got Saturday.

    So my question, do we get paid for the day off since it was UPS decision not to work? I couldn't find it in my contract book and am allergic to the search button.

    Thanks
     
  2. ups79

    ups79 Active Member

    You are kidding me, aren't you? The old farmer's saying applies here "you don't work, you don't eat".
     
  3. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    I don't think that applies here when i was willing to come in and do my job and my employer tells me not to come in. It was a question of sincerity, not of idiocy. having only ever had 3 days off in my 16.5 years, it's not a subject that comes up much, so i ask my brethren.
     
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    If UPS declares a snow emergency and calls you before you start your shift you do not get paid and must either burn a day or take a dead day. If you are on your way in or are already at work and they declare then you get paid for 8 and they will find something for you to to in the bldg.
     
  5. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Act of God. You'll get nothing and like it.
     
  6. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Is that a reference to God or the unpaid snow day. Can easily go both ways.
     
  7. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Wrong
     
  8. local804

    local804 Well-Known Member

    People that reported get report pay which is usually 4 hours.
     
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.


    See post below.
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2010
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I get to prove Joe Union wrong!!!!


    Upstate/West New York Supplement, Article 53, Section 4--Emergency Conditions

    In cases where severe snowstorms, acts of God or other unforeseen catastrophes disrupt the operations of the Employer, the daily and weekly guarantees shall not apply provided the Employer notifies the employees in advance not to report to work. Where the Employer fails to notify the employees not to report, employees reporting for work shall receive their contractual guarantee.

    Being right has never felt so good!!
     
  11. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    Who are you and what are you doing reading your contract?
     
  12. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.


    I admit I had to dust it off but I do know about this clause as it came in to play during Ice Storm '98.
     
  13. MD Dan

    MD Dan Member

    This was not a fit of compassion. They realized that they would lose more money by running the operation than by shutting it down. The big question will be tomorrow when the roads are still drifting shut and the wind chills are in the single digits.
     
  14. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    So it oculd have changed over the last 2 new contracts, 2002 and 2008? LOL
     
  15. ups79

    ups79 Active Member

    You are so right. Why still have a 1998 contract?
     
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Read much? The contract clause I quoted is from our supplement of the 2008 NMA. I remember this clause as it came in to play during the Ice Storm of 1998. The clause was in the 1997 and 2002 supplements and is in the 2008 supplement to the NMA.
     
  17. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    You mean a 97 contract? its ok.
     
  18. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I think the tactics they are using against you Upstate is called "deflection" and "distraction".
     
  19. DorkHead

    DorkHead Active Member

    upstate is right on this. However, in Pa., their snow emergency rules may differ from ours.
     
  20. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Once again, Wrong.
    You fell into my trap.
    The OP, Cementups, is from Harrisburg PA.
    Therefore is governed by the Central Pa. Supplement, not your Upstate/West Ny supplement that you are quoting.
    I only chimed in the first time so I could throw in the Caddy Shack quote, "you'll get nothing and like it".
    I do know that here, in my area, the guarantee is off in the event of an "Act of God".
    It happened last year.
    So in summation, you are wrong to think you know from your own regional language.
    We are all from different areas and subject to different regional and local supplements.
    There are many self proclaimed know-it-alls who will give ill advised contract advice on this site.
    Consult your local steward or BA for the correct answers, not me and certainly not Upstate.
    Joe Union says in your face with your short lived victory.
    Now yawn and go to bed.
     
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