So I am taking a cut in pay to become a driver?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by OptimusPrime, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Active Member

    After some hassles, finally got my first check from my center. Anyways was kind of surprised I was only making $16.10 an hour. They basically said that was the cost to play the game. You want to become a driver, your pay rate gets reset. I guess it's not the end of the world, with more hours and OT, but don't combo guys keep their same wage when they go full time?
     
  2. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    22.3 combo, seniority and two year progression finished? having run an air route and full driving responsibilities? You go to top driver rate.

    Just a PT ins/exception air combo but not FT, does not qualify and you start at $16.10.

    That's how it works in this area, anyway. Check your local supplements.
     
  3. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Everyone keeps the same wage your just frozen until progression catches up. At least that's how I always understood it.
     
  4. brownrod

    brownrod Active Member

    22.3 combo and full time driver have different progression lenghts. Currently it is a 3 year progression for FT driver. I'm not sure what the current 22.3 progression is but in the last contract it was 2 years. If you've served your 2 years progression for 22.3 you would still need to make up the difference. Meaning you would have a 1 year progression to make top pay in full time driving.
     
  5. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    You were cut to newbie casual rate. Wrong! You need to speak with your sup with a steward and inform them that they have x amount of time to make up the difference(which was the top air/22.3 rate you were making), or you will expect the contractually agreed upon penalty of Double Time.
     
  6. splozi

    splozi Guest

    I read that as Double Team.

    ...sigh.
     
  7. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    :winks: hehehehehhehe The giggles are getting to you. :obeyhypnosmiley:
     
  8. splozi

    splozi Guest

    Are you selling tickets to this giggle fest? I hear some awesome bands are playing.
     
  9. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LMAO!!!! The line up is second to none. That's for sure. Tickets can be had, but they aren't for sale. It's one ticket per show. No refunds. :winks:
     
  10. splozi

    splozi Guest

    I might not be able to afford it then.

    Are you gonna be selling DVDs of the show afterward?
     
  11. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Nope. Any and all recordings made are the exclusive property of Me, not you, and are for Me, not you's personal use. hehehehehehehe
     
  12. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Active Member

    I'm in my 30 day qualification period. But the part that confuses me is why my first check was messed up. They said I am categorized as basically being on loan from my old part time position, I guess basically like how I was considered as seasonal. For that I made my normal hourly pay the same as if I was sorting.
     
  13. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    You are NOT on the FT books, correct? Therefore you are entering the FT driving progression from a part-time combo, not full-time 22.3. You should be at the lowest progression wage for FT driving, I would assume. Someone , please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  14. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    You need to read Article 41. Section 2. (C)

    "Part-time employees on the payroll as of July 31, 2008 who subse- quently are promoted to full-time employment under this paragraph will be red circled until such time as the calculated progression rate exceeds that rate. The transfer date will become his/her full-time start date for purposes of applying the above progression. "

    File a grievance first thing Monday morning and use Article 41. Section 2. (c)

    They owe you money and make sure you get every dime...
     
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The OP has not yet qualified so Art 41 would not apply until he does.
     
  16. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    They tried this when I was in my probationary period. I got paid.
     
  17. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    It doesn't say anything about gaining seniority first.... Article 41 applies.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Wouldn't "promoted to FT" imply having to have gained seniority?
     
  19. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    No. It means you have accepted the job assignment.
     
  20. hondo

    hondo promoted to mediocrity

    Sounds like you were classified as seasonal/casual, not permanent full time.
    This^^^.
    Huh?:confused: What are you basing this on? Are you saying that transfer date means date he achieves seniority, and not the date he's transferred from part time hub to full time driver?
    I disagree. If the negotiators meant 'upon qualifying' or 'upon attaining seniority', that's what it would say.