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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 555477" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I believe it's past due we moved on from oil and it's geopolitics. From the early 1970's till now, oil has been our national obsession and where has it gotten us? How many are dead and how much of our labor and future labor (taxes) are/will be spent to fuel this obsession? I wonder where we would be now if in 1970' instead of taking the route we took, we had taken the same manpower and labor (taxes) and walked in a different direction away from oil! At that point we'd seen our own domestic peak oil and ramped up the global quest for black gold. I'm betting the farm we'd be a whole lot happier as a nation and we'd not be facing the many problems we face either.</p><p> </p><p>That said, the internal combustion engine as we know it is dead on arrival. The upper limit of efficency of a steel engine is 37% and even now with turbos, out engines at best are in the low 20% range. Where is the rest of that energy going? Out the tailpipe! If you walk up to an electric motor in a UPS facility, all will be in the 80% range and the new motors out there today are in the 95% range. Granted, if we all went electric tomorrow, the grid would overload as it's near capacity even now. </p><p> </p><p>The answers are there but the question is, who's interests will dominate Washington and who will win the day?</p><p> </p><p>Think local!</p><p>jmo</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 555477, member: 2189"] I believe it's past due we moved on from oil and it's geopolitics. From the early 1970's till now, oil has been our national obsession and where has it gotten us? How many are dead and how much of our labor and future labor (taxes) are/will be spent to fuel this obsession? I wonder where we would be now if in 1970' instead of taking the route we took, we had taken the same manpower and labor (taxes) and walked in a different direction away from oil! At that point we'd seen our own domestic peak oil and ramped up the global quest for black gold. I'm betting the farm we'd be a whole lot happier as a nation and we'd not be facing the many problems we face either. That said, the internal combustion engine as we know it is dead on arrival. The upper limit of efficency of a steel engine is 37% and even now with turbos, out engines at best are in the low 20% range. Where is the rest of that energy going? Out the tailpipe! If you walk up to an electric motor in a UPS facility, all will be in the 80% range and the new motors out there today are in the 95% range. Granted, if we all went electric tomorrow, the grid would overload as it's near capacity even now. The answers are there but the question is, who's interests will dominate Washington and who will win the day? Think local! jmo [/QUOTE]
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