Some drivers just crack me up....

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by CustomerConcern, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. CustomerConcern

    CustomerConcern New Member

    So its that time of year when our "in-town" routes are getting SPORH lockdown rides. The most recent victim prior had an avg of 18.6 SPORH with 1.3 overallowed. After his 3 day ride he was at 22.3 SPORH and .4 overallowed. I got the numbers from a meeting with CTRMGR. Went and talked with driver who then told me "I used my breaks to sort and didn't take lunch until we returned to the bldg." After telling him what an idiot he is I informed him of the problem he created that he now has to do that all the time. He got real whiny told me I ain't doing my job as a steward and he demands another ride along. I laughed at him and gave him the phone number for the local.
     
  2. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    can you give us the delivery stops and p/u stops numbers and total hrs worked?
     
  3. CustomerConcern

    CustomerConcern New Member

    If I remember right he runs around 170 del. with 300 pkgs and like 15 p/u. with 50 pkgs also has a small mall (about 20 stops and 5 p/u). Hours worked were some where around 50 to 55.
     
  4. rod

    rod retired and happy


    is that all?:happy2:
     
  5. whiskey

    whiskey New Member

    Well those 3 days were a waste of time. The on car soup is just as bad as Mr. 1.3. Now there's a pair that could beat a full house.
     
  6. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I've had three, three day lock-in rides in the last four years.
    Each one yields a different result.
    Each day of each ride yields a different result.
    This reaffirms my position that every day is different.
    This little calculated bluff only works on the weak and timid.
    Spohr is nothing more than an oversimplification of what we do.
    If they can't hold us to their allowances, why would spohr be any different?
    It will never change anything with me.
     
  7. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    8.73 day.... 195/22.3

    Supervisor should have made him take his lunch and break before returning to building.
     
  8. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    That is correct. The whole purpose of a lock in is to see what a driver does with a supervisor on the car to supposedly see what the "demonstrated performance" is. If things are done differently then there will not be an accurate ride and any result will be false. Same is true for a three day ride in which the route is changed every day. No way to get an accurate ride. No way to lock in anything accurately for that matter
     
  9. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    It baffles me how anybody can take this farce, the three day lock in driver ride seriously.
    Isn't spohr, stops divided by onroad hours, two of the many variables that goes into the derivation of our allowances?
    With that in mind, how does eliminating all but two variables somehow give a clearer picture?
    It doesn't!
    It's a calculated bluff.
    Don't buy into it.
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2011
  10. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    So.. 190 stops and 20 pickups is not even a 9 hour day.....thisis total bs.does this sound right to anyone. Do you think its right that this person has to sort on their break.....pathetic
     
  11. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    I do not think its right he did not take his lunch on road. As for his break, no, he should not have worked on his break.
    He told the steward he worked thru his break, did he record his break and then work thru it? My bet is he told the sup. he didn't want to take a break (you do not have to take a break) and kept on working and told the steward a different story.
     
  12. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Lmaorof that's funny. There is an idiot born every second.
     
  13. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Are these the numbers for the three days combined??
     
  14. packageguy

    packageguy Well-Known Member

    What is crazy, it's always someone elses fault, what did the stewart do wrong. Oh said spoke the truth. I can see this driver going for the trifecta in a 2 week time, warning letter, notice of suspense and notice of discharge.
     
  15. browniehound

    browniehound Well-Known Member

    What if he only does 30 miles? Then its possible.
     
  16. packageguy

    packageguy Well-Known Member

    Here at UPS anything is possible.
     
  17. browniehound

    browniehound Well-Known Member

    Whats happens on a 3-day ride when the driver really needs to use the bathroom and I mean REALLY NEEDS to use it I have gone at least 10 minutes off trace to the nearest bathroom because it was a MUST. If this happens does it disqualify the ride?
     
  18. packageguy

    packageguy Well-Known Member

    I don't think so it's part of the day.
     
  19. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Actually you do have to take a break, and if this guy was getting a production ride then it was the supervisor's responsibility to make sure that he took it whether he wanted to or not. Just to be clear I'm talking about the unpaid lunch break.
     
  20. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    In response to the OP, I see this all the time. Driver consistently runs an hour+ over allowed, management is always on his/her case, driver insists they are doing everything by the methods, etc. I always tell the driver "Just make sure you're doing your job and doing it right and you don't have anything to worry about." Finally management gets on the car, and the next day the operations report shows the driver ran scratch or better. I ask the driver what happened and I hear it all: "It was a perfect day", or "I didn't have any bulk or airs", or just "I don't know". You gotta do better than that.