Stock down today???

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by air_upser, Dec 8, 2005.

  1. air_upser

    air_upser New Member

    OK, oil went up, the dow went down, and I believe MIP was ditributed today so is that the reason the stock was down on pretty heavy volume today or was it something else. I can't find any news....anyone have any theories..is UPSgirl having Eskew's baby? Sorry, had to throw that in. Seriously, someone said TNT rumors were getting stonger and the weather and pilots aren't helping, but with the amount of online buying going on, I can't beleive the stock is collapsing again.
     
  2. dannyboy

    dannyboy From the promised LAND

    I heard it was the probability of millions of shares being dumped on the market by someone here.

    But it will bounce back, just like it does with any other false rumor

    d
     
  3. ups79

    ups79 Active Member

    take this as just a question: Is it time to do away with the A and B shares and make them all equal in voting rights? I believe a lot of instutions are not interested in us because of the lack of voting power. Maybe others than UPS long timers need to be brought in on the BOD.
     
  4. dannyboy

    dannyboy From the promised LAND

    We do have others besides UPS personel on the BOD.

    d
     
  5. traveler

    traveler Where next? Venice

    If this happens, I believe UPS will be a takeover target. :confused:1 Just remember the old saying, "The devil you know is better that the devil you don't know." :scared:
     
  6. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Good point Traveler.

    ups79,
    Regarding A/B shares, I converted all my UPS shares to "B" shares not long after we were able to finally able too once to prohibited period ended. I had already accumulated some UPS shares on the open market playing the dips and tops and along with other investments it set me up nicely with a perk loaded Cap Account with a major banking institution. Part of me is right with you on your point but I get weak kneed when I think about Traveler's point. I'd rather keep the devil we know!:lol:

     
  7. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    Oil continues to be the biggest factor. i believe the supply has been holding up ok though I have not seen an inventory report in a couple of weeks. However i think the cold weather moving into the east has caused the price of oil to jump in anticipation of tightening supply which has in turn hammered transportation stocks.

    Hope fdx reports what i think they will report. A significant slowing of their growth on dec 21st. At that point it will be interesting to see if the market things its an indication of a slowing market or UPS putting the squeeze on fdx.
     
  8. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member


    What makes you believe fredex will report slow growth? Just because of UPS's success? Their IC situation? Other factors?

    I'm not a fedex shareholder, just curious really.
     
  9. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Just a portion of the article.....

    Deutsche Post Indicates Tough Time At Express Operations
    Dow Jones

    By Steve McGrath

    Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

    LONDON -(Dow Jones)- Deutsche Post AG (DPW.XE) Wednesday indicated that its
    express unit in the U.S. is facing tougher times, lowering guidance for 2005.

    The German mail and logistics giant cut its outlook for its express
    division, saying that instead of doubling this year it will rise about 35% to EUR500
    million in 2005, up from around EUR370 million in 2004.

    It blamed deterioration in the U.S. It has modified its guidance on losses
    to be better than EUR400 million rather than around EUR300 million, implying
    that losses may be up to EUR100 million greater.

    The company has seen "a severe deterioration" in Express profit guidance,
    which is about 30% below previous forecasts, said one trader who requested
    anonymity. The market had been hoping for a seasonal rally in the fourth quarter,
    he said.