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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 108753" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Tie,</p><p>Read the transcript of the conference call that Scott Davis had with analyst and you'll see "the catostrophic event." Scott spoke of "after the fact" looking back at historical operating trends as they related to similar operating scenarios for 2Q and realizing then why we missed. Upon this, there was question after question after question from the participants in the call on this singular issue and Scott dug the hole deeper. To be blunt, he made UPS look like our projections for the 2Q had been on a "wing and a prayer" rather than solid business analysis using historical operating data as a backdrop. Conclusion therefore is, "if you screwed up that bad on your past quarter projections, then how can I trust you on any further projections that I use to base my investments on!" </p><p> </p><p>Now granted I also think the stock dropped well beyond what it should have but Wall Street always panics and then several weeks later with no further bad news to solidify the panic, a stock will begin to venture back. It's take some time IMO for us to get back to where we were but I also recognize that a couple of years ago we couldn't stay out of the $50 price range so we have gained some ground in that respect. UPS is a slow grow, longterm play with opportunities in the middle with dips like the one we have to add to one's holdings. Beyond that, go invest somewhere else because you will only be disappointed. </p><p> </p><p>UPS has already gained back almost half of it's losses from it's recent 52 week high of $83.99 but the good news it our PE <span style="font-size: 9px">ttm </span><span style="font-size: 10px">is now 19 but the bad news is FDX PE </span><span style="font-size: 9px">ttm </span><span style="font-size: 10px">is 17 so the buying will be over there until we prove ourselves with our business plans and FDX stock price gets a little overweighted in value as I'm sure will happen. </span></p><p> </p><p>Currently you have 5 analyst with a strong buy recommendation, 4 with a buy, 8 hold and only 1 with a strong sell and 0 with a sell based on current Yahoo data. FDX has the same with Strong Buy and buy but the Hold is 9 intead of our 8 and no sell recommendations. If Scott and the folks at Glenlake will do their due dilgence as they are suppose to (obvious they didn't with the 2Q results explaination) and we do the job as we say we will do, then I don't see that much difference between us and FDX so we should be OK for the most part. </p><p> </p><p>JMO</p><p> </p><p>BTW: I do have the transcript and if you can't find it let me know via PM and I'll housemail you a copy if you like. </p><p> </p><p>(sang to a child's tune) <span style="color: red">"</span><span style="color: red">I know where Tie is and Susie don't!"</span> <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group2/tt2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":tt2:" title="Tt2 :tt2:" data-shortname=":tt2:" /> </p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Lol :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p> </p><p>Here's Susie reading that last one! <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group2/taz.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":taz:" title="Taz :taz:" data-shortname=":taz:" /> </p><p> </p><p>I'm just an <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> and I admit it. LMAO!!!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 108753, member: 2189"] Tie, Read the transcript of the conference call that Scott Davis had with analyst and you'll see "the catostrophic event." Scott spoke of "after the fact" looking back at historical operating trends as they related to similar operating scenarios for 2Q and realizing then why we missed. Upon this, there was question after question after question from the participants in the call on this singular issue and Scott dug the hole deeper. To be blunt, he made UPS look like our projections for the 2Q had been on a "wing and a prayer" rather than solid business analysis using historical operating data as a backdrop. Conclusion therefore is, "if you screwed up that bad on your past quarter projections, then how can I trust you on any further projections that I use to base my investments on!" Now granted I also think the stock dropped well beyond what it should have but Wall Street always panics and then several weeks later with no further bad news to solidify the panic, a stock will begin to venture back. It's take some time IMO for us to get back to where we were but I also recognize that a couple of years ago we couldn't stay out of the $50 price range so we have gained some ground in that respect. UPS is a slow grow, longterm play with opportunities in the middle with dips like the one we have to add to one's holdings. Beyond that, go invest somewhere else because you will only be disappointed. UPS has already gained back almost half of it's losses from it's recent 52 week high of $83.99 but the good news it our PE [SIZE=1]ttm [/SIZE][SIZE=2]is now 19 but the bad news is FDX PE [/SIZE][SIZE=1]ttm [/SIZE][SIZE=2]is 17 so the buying will be over there until we prove ourselves with our business plans and FDX stock price gets a little overweighted in value as I'm sure will happen. [/SIZE] Currently you have 5 analyst with a strong buy recommendation, 4 with a buy, 8 hold and only 1 with a strong sell and 0 with a sell based on current Yahoo data. FDX has the same with Strong Buy and buy but the Hold is 9 intead of our 8 and no sell recommendations. If Scott and the folks at Glenlake will do their due dilgence as they are suppose to (obvious they didn't with the 2Q results explaination) and we do the job as we say we will do, then I don't see that much difference between us and FDX so we should be OK for the most part. JMO BTW: I do have the transcript and if you can't find it let me know via PM and I'll housemail you a copy if you like. (sang to a child's tune) [COLOR=red]"[/COLOR][COLOR=red]I know where Tie is and Susie don't!"[/COLOR] :tt2: :lol: Here's Susie reading that last one! :taz: I'm just an :censored: and I admit it. LMAO!!!!! [/QUOTE]
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