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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1087521" data-attributes="member: 14668"><p>1. My great-grandfathers Winchester model 1894 lever-action 30-30 deer rifle can easily defeat light armor such as the Kevlar Level IIIa typically worn by police officers that is only designed to defeat handgun bullets. This rifle was first manufactured in the year 1894, and has been a very popular choice for deer and black bear hunting for almost 120 years now. Are you proposing that we ban any hunting rifle that can defeat light armor? Light armor is just that...<em>light</em>. Its meant to defeat low velocity handgun rounds and buckshot, <em>not</em> rifle rounds. If you want to defeat high-powered rifle rounds you need to wear a trauma plate inside the armor. They are made of steel and ceramic and weigh about 40 pounds each (one in front, one in back), which is why cops dont normally wear them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>2. The nut case who shot the fireman was half a <em>block</em> away, not half a mile. Half a <em>mile</em> is 800 meters, which is at least <em>twice </em>the effective range of a .223 round fired from a scoped rifle. If you want to spout off on gun control then at least <em>try</em> to get your facts straight.</p><p></p><p>3. The nut case who shot the fireman could have accomplished the <em>same</em> thing using a conventional bolt or lever action hunting rifle. He ambushed them from a concealed position. His choice of weapon had no bearing on the outcome of the shooting.</p><p></p><p>4. The nut case who shot the fireman was already convicted felon who by law <em>could</em> <em>not</em> <em>own</em> firearms in the first place. He obtained the weapon <em>illegally</em>, thru a straw buyer. Instead of worrying the magazine capacity of a weapon that he was legally prohibited from even having, perhaps we<em> should</em> be asking why a man who beat his 75 year old grandmother to death with a claw hammer was out on parole from prison to begin with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1087521, member: 14668"] 1. My great-grandfathers Winchester model 1894 lever-action 30-30 deer rifle can easily defeat light armor such as the Kevlar Level IIIa typically worn by police officers that is only designed to defeat handgun bullets. This rifle was first manufactured in the year 1894, and has been a very popular choice for deer and black bear hunting for almost 120 years now. Are you proposing that we ban any hunting rifle that can defeat light armor? Light armor is just that...[I]light[/I]. Its meant to defeat low velocity handgun rounds and buckshot, [I]not[/I] rifle rounds. If you want to defeat high-powered rifle rounds you need to wear a trauma plate inside the armor. They are made of steel and ceramic and weigh about 40 pounds each (one in front, one in back), which is why cops dont normally wear them. 2. The nut case who shot the fireman was half a [I]block[/I] away, not half a mile. Half a [I]mile[/I] is 800 meters, which is at least [I]twice [/I]the effective range of a .223 round fired from a scoped rifle. If you want to spout off on gun control then at least [I]try[/I] to get your facts straight. 3. The nut case who shot the fireman could have accomplished the [I]same[/I] thing using a conventional bolt or lever action hunting rifle. He ambushed them from a concealed position. His choice of weapon had no bearing on the outcome of the shooting. 4. The nut case who shot the fireman was already convicted felon who by law [I]could[/I] [I]not[/I] [I]own[/I] firearms in the first place. He obtained the weapon [I]illegally[/I], thru a straw buyer. Instead of worrying the magazine capacity of a weapon that he was legally prohibited from even having, perhaps we[I] should[/I] be asking why a man who beat his 75 year old grandmother to death with a claw hammer was out on parole from prison to begin with. [/QUOTE]
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