UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Yes, they are PALed differently, but if you look in EDD you will see that they are one stop. Your EDD will show something like 3+75 meaning you have 3 premium packages and 75 ground.
Stops per car.
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Yes, they are PALed differently, but if you look in EDD you will see that they are one stop. Your EDD will show something like 3+75 meaning you have 3 premium packages and 75 ground.
Dirk Balloon
Member
Dont have too much faith in the customer. I am pretty sure that what some of the regulars do is purposely order 1 air, with a group packages, so that they are given an earlier delivery.
This is just my theory. I could be totally wrong.
This is just my theory. I could be totally wrong.
Indecisi0n
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Yes because there isn't such a thing as late ground. If i get late NDA they can't blame me for delivering gnd+air together. If i have late air its because i was over dispatched and i put on the blame on them. Now don't get me wrong if my air is light and i have plenty of time then i will deliver both together but if its a close call then its air only. It's all about CYA these days.
Walk the line
Active Member
So one could delivery the NDA first then return for the GND, as long as it was in the best interest of the Company. Say like making service for other premium pkgs. sounds like a day to day decision for the driver to make. UPS already eliminated the digging through for air by seperating it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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It is a decision based upon the number of NDA stops. Most days I can run trace, delivering both air and ground, but there are days when I have to break trace to get the air off on time. You don't want late air.
gman042
Been around the block a few times
I have had several supervisors who have said that the next day air and the ground for the same address are different stops. The NDA has its commit time and the lesser service levels have later commit times. Now which is going to add to your dispatch, delivering everything at the same time or retracing miles and an extra stop? If you want the most out of your day then take the extra work when it is there.
I agree there are exceptions to this rule and I treat them the same as most others. Generally, if there is a large bulk stop that there are next day deliveries for, then I deliver it all at the same time. I usually don't have the time to separate the air from the ground. BUT you could..........
It is not so much about the extra stops it is about the extra time and miles that you are paid for. UPS allows us to treat the next day air as its own stop.....because it is the premium. You are not padding stops or miles when you deliver the ground on your usual trace.
Just work the parameters set by UPS to your advantage. AIR and ground are separate stops.
EVEN savers have a different commit time. Think about that one.
I agree there are exceptions to this rule and I treat them the same as most others. Generally, if there is a large bulk stop that there are next day deliveries for, then I deliver it all at the same time. I usually don't have the time to separate the air from the ground. BUT you could..........
It is not so much about the extra stops it is about the extra time and miles that you are paid for. UPS allows us to treat the next day air as its own stop.....because it is the premium. You are not padding stops or miles when you deliver the ground on your usual trace.
Just work the parameters set by UPS to your advantage. AIR and ground are separate stops.
EVEN savers have a different commit time. Think about that one.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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NDA, saver and ground all going to the same address are ONE stop.
Anything else is padding stops.
On those days when I have to break trace to run off the air and I have to go back to an address it is a duplicate stop.
Why in the world would I want to go to Walmart, deliver just the NDA, go back before 3 to deliver the savers and then back before they close to deliver the ground??
Your supervisors are giving you poor advice.
Anything else is padding stops.
On those days when I have to break trace to run off the air and I have to go back to an address it is a duplicate stop.
Why in the world would I want to go to Walmart, deliver just the NDA, go back before 3 to deliver the savers and then back before they close to deliver the ground??
Your supervisors are giving you poor advice.
I never go back to a stop twice unless I have a pickup later in the day. Everything comes off (ground and Air at the same time). In order to accomplish this you have to look at your EDD and have a plan before you leave the building.
Company policy states that a driver is allowed to take credit for an extra stop if it is a committed nda. If tou have to go back with groung packages later you can. You can't just do it to do it. That would be padding stops. Take for instance a mall route,where you could have 20 nda stops by 10:30. You will have to go back for ground
