Stuff like this happens more often than it should

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by PeasAndCarrots, Jun 20, 2014.

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  2. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I refused when they say that.
     
  3. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    Unless its unsafe, you have to work as directed.

    Nothing to grieve but just shows a lack of integrity.
     
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    When you send back "ok I need confirmation that you want me to falsify this misload" it's normally met my silence.
     
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  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    No you do not have to falsify records. I would refuse and proceed to call the ethics hotline.
     
  6. Take a break and take a pic. Sent it to your ba. Your ba can say he met you out on the route ant snapped a pic. Next thing you know that sup/manager is getting sent home for the week.
     
  7. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Nah the company usually lets it slide 5-10 times then they get sent to the Orion team here.
     
  8. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    I send in message stating that is dishonesty , and I will not be terminated for dishonesty.
     
  9. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    So what are they gonna do? Give you a warning letter for refusing to falsify delivery records? Do you seriously think that a management person would be willing to go on the record at a grievance hearing and state that he instructed you to falsify a record? Aint gonna happen!
     
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  10. brown bomber

    brown bomber brown bomber

    missload, is that some big gal sitting on the porch
    I always thought that it was misload
     
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  11. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    If they cant even spell "misload" correctly, they are obviously too stupid to prevail at a disciplinary hearing if you refuse to falsify as directed.
     
  12. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Just noticed where ever the op is from they are called misloads also. Had a sup call them wrong cars once. I was like WUT!?!?!?!
     
  13. toxic88

    toxic88 New Member

    Carry a small notepad and start writing down the tracking numbers. If management ever wants to pull the "dishonesty card" or their "stealing time card" out you can pull out your notepad and play their game.
     
  14. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    If you look at the preload "scoresheets" and data, mis-loads aren't listed as mis-loads, but fall under "WRONG CAR" events.
     
  15. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Hey Peas, that's a interesting pic that you stumbled across on Google.
     
  16. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    You guys had a lot of angst to get rid of last night LOL

    You feel dishonest doing something you're told, take a pic of message and document it.
    You're not going to get fired for sheeting a package the way they tell you
    Actually, you get fired for not working as directed
    You can do what they say and still call the ethics hotline, it's not either or

    They put their ass on the line by sending the message over the diad, not yours.
     
  17. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    They can delete diad messages never to be seen again. It's pretty easy. No management personnel would ever fess up to sending the message so it is your ass on the line.

    It's simple I don't have to do it so why would I?
     
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  18. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    When I got messages like that I would always call the center and talk directly to the person who sent the message to verify that that's really what they wanted me to do. I would then add a note to the stop with their name in it ("per joe blow"), because that note will be on the delivery record if they ever want to look at it later.
     
  19. The Driver

    The Driver Active Member

    Sheet as CL, in Remarks put "PER ODS". Done.
     
  20. PS, here's another from the same day talking about the same misload.
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