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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 318964" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p><strong>Re: Stupidvisors working...</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Well another propaganda victim.</p><p> </p><p>Did you miss the point of the post? As usual, you segregate something out and isolate it in your argument.</p><p> </p><p>I said, the religious awakening is killing its citizens, we are merely in the middle getting killed for being in the way.</p><p> </p><p>We are responsible for creating the violence today in IRAQ. This is undesputable.</p><p> </p><p>Prior to our invasion , there were NO SUICIDE bombings in IRAQ. There were no Shia vs Sunni hate crimes in the hundreds each and every day.</p><p> </p><p>And, for those like TIE who post that Saddam killed Millions of people in his country, again , another exageration by the Bush administration and I challenge anyone to post a linkable verification of those numbers.</p><p> </p><p>Now, dont for 1 sec think that I believe that he did not kill some of his own people, indeed he has, but most of the people he killed was with OUR BLESSING, OUR TECHNOLOGY and OUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT,</p><p> </p><p>So, having said this and it can be proven, wouldnt that make us an accomplice??</p><p> </p><p>During the Reagan administration, Cheney and Rumsfeld were middle east envoys, cheney with the CIA, Rumsfeld with the White House. It was each of these TWO MEN who supplied Saddam with the chemical and biological weapons to use against the Iranians who were invading from the east. He used these weapons and killed over 150K Iranian troops.</p><p> </p><p>Further, in the north, Saddam was threatened by the PKK / Kurds in the north, mostly because of an disagreement with oil revenues, so he went after them. He finally tired of conventional tactics with his republican guard so he used the remaining chemical weapons that WE supplied him.</p><p> </p><p>Remember, for those who claim to know, but dont have a clue, Chemical weapons have a shelf life, they are not indeffinate weapons. The Saryn gas he used on the Kurds on 2 days in august in the 80's during the Reagan administration killed only 6746 people (verified). NOT MILLIONS.</p><p> </p><p>Chemical gas weapons once mixed only have a shelf life of 6 months, some less depending on the blends. So to think that Saddam would have 80's era chemical weapons in the year 2003 was a claim that the Bush administration knew full well to be untrue, but suckers like you would believe it.</p><p> </p><p>Those same kurds in the north we protected with a no fly zone during bush 1 and clinton, but in the Bush 2 administration, we went in on a premise that Saddam was going to kill the KURDS and they had to be protected, however, NOW the kurds / PKK are fair game and the BUSH administration has removed the no fly zone and the KURDS are being attacked by the TURKS with the approval of the BUSH administration.</p><p> </p><p>Now, it appears, the rhetoric has changed once again and the Kurds/PKK are terrorists, the same claim Saddam made for 15 years until he gased them.</p><p> </p><p>Now which is it? Are we protecting the Kurds from harm or are they terrorists? </p><p> </p><p>It would appear everyone forgets this little piece of history. It doesnt surprise me, people are more willing to be led to a disaster than enforce thier unalienable right to speak out and demonstrate what democracy is.</p><p> </p><p>Andrew Jackson said it best: " DISSENT IS THE PUREST FORM OF DEMOCRACY"</p><p> </p><p>As for your question, dont be an idiot, it has been said that "its better to appear an idiot than open your mouth and confirm it."</p><p> </p><p>Clearly, I was speaking about americans defending our homeland from an invading force and never mentioned kiling each other, however, there are a few republicans id like to see as colateral damage.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 318964, member: 12148"] [b]Re: Stupidvisors working...[/b] Well another propaganda victim. Did you miss the point of the post? As usual, you segregate something out and isolate it in your argument. I said, the religious awakening is killing its citizens, we are merely in the middle getting killed for being in the way. We are responsible for creating the violence today in IRAQ. This is undesputable. Prior to our invasion , there were NO SUICIDE bombings in IRAQ. There were no Shia vs Sunni hate crimes in the hundreds each and every day. And, for those like TIE who post that Saddam killed Millions of people in his country, again , another exageration by the Bush administration and I challenge anyone to post a linkable verification of those numbers. Now, dont for 1 sec think that I believe that he did not kill some of his own people, indeed he has, but most of the people he killed was with OUR BLESSING, OUR TECHNOLOGY and OUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT, So, having said this and it can be proven, wouldnt that make us an accomplice?? During the Reagan administration, Cheney and Rumsfeld were middle east envoys, cheney with the CIA, Rumsfeld with the White House. It was each of these TWO MEN who supplied Saddam with the chemical and biological weapons to use against the Iranians who were invading from the east. He used these weapons and killed over 150K Iranian troops. Further, in the north, Saddam was threatened by the PKK / Kurds in the north, mostly because of an disagreement with oil revenues, so he went after them. He finally tired of conventional tactics with his republican guard so he used the remaining chemical weapons that WE supplied him. Remember, for those who claim to know, but dont have a clue, Chemical weapons have a shelf life, they are not indeffinate weapons. The Saryn gas he used on the Kurds on 2 days in august in the 80's during the Reagan administration killed only 6746 people (verified). NOT MILLIONS. Chemical gas weapons once mixed only have a shelf life of 6 months, some less depending on the blends. So to think that Saddam would have 80's era chemical weapons in the year 2003 was a claim that the Bush administration knew full well to be untrue, but suckers like you would believe it. Those same kurds in the north we protected with a no fly zone during bush 1 and clinton, but in the Bush 2 administration, we went in on a premise that Saddam was going to kill the KURDS and they had to be protected, however, NOW the kurds / PKK are fair game and the BUSH administration has removed the no fly zone and the KURDS are being attacked by the TURKS with the approval of the BUSH administration. Now, it appears, the rhetoric has changed once again and the Kurds/PKK are terrorists, the same claim Saddam made for 15 years until he gased them. Now which is it? Are we protecting the Kurds from harm or are they terrorists? It would appear everyone forgets this little piece of history. It doesnt surprise me, people are more willing to be led to a disaster than enforce thier unalienable right to speak out and demonstrate what democracy is. Andrew Jackson said it best: " DISSENT IS THE PUREST FORM OF DEMOCRACY" As for your question, dont be an idiot, it has been said that "its better to appear an idiot than open your mouth and confirm it." Clearly, I was speaking about americans defending our homeland from an invading force and never mentioned kiling each other, however, there are a few republicans id like to see as colateral damage. Peace.:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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