Supervisors Working Grievances on Behalf of Others

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by turdburglar, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. turdburglar

    turdburglar New Member

    Hello everyone. I was wondering if anyone knew if I would be able to file a supervisors working grievance on behalf of other preloaders. It appears that I am the only one in the building who has the balls to actually file, although there are people in the building who are sick of how they are run off the clock only to have supervisors do their work once they leave. This is problematic since I can only watch so many metros. However, like I said, there are people who are willing to make a log of supervisors working so that I can file on them (with the preloader making a log as a witness). It does not seem that they are interested in the grievance money at all, they just want supervisors to stop taking their time from them (or they are scared of retaliation). So, is it allowable? Thank You in advance for any responses.
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    If the employee(s) who are affected by this are not willing to file, the steward, not you, should file on their behalf.
     
  3. turdburglar

    turdburglar New Member

    Well, that's another problem. The union steward in our building does not do anything about supervisors working. They can do it right in front of him, and he will not do a thing.
     
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    In that case go ahead and file. You should know that doing say may put a target on your back.
     
  5. turdburglar

    turdburglar New Member

    Well, I have been filing on the supervisors that I can see, and they have sort of "retaliated" by moving me to a heavier load area, but I do not care. So what you are saying is that it is acceptable for me to file on behalf of others, or would such a grievance be thrown out since I could not necessarily see the supervisor working the whole time?
     
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It should be the employees who actually saw the supervisors working or the steward filing on their behalf. Call your BA to see what he suggests that you do.
     
  7. turdburglar

    turdburglar New Member

    All right then, I will call the BA. Thanks for the help.
     
  8. 104Feeder

    104Feeder Phoenix Feeder

    If you have a log and a signed statement from the witnessing employee(s) you can absolutely file.

    Sounds to me like you might ask the BA for a Stewards election and run for Steward yourself.
     
  9. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I have never filed unless I personally saw a sup working. I have however saw my Stewart file on the behave of another employee when someone witnessed a sup taking work from a driver.
     
  10. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    I have a serious issue with this "steward" that lets these sup's get a free pass. I know the sups use all the excuses (poor staffing, heavy volume day, etc) in the book. Sounds like he/she is either lazy or scared. As a steward, I go in early everyday and start with the preload. I'll ask the belt sups to show me their hands first, dirty gets their name on a grievance. I'll ask the loaders just to nod if the sup "moved" any packages that day. If yes, GRIEVANCE. Then after my shift, I'll ask the OMS for a printout of all the routes dispatched that day which have the names of the employee with it. I look for sups, managers or even aliases (yes they use those too and btw that's a falsification of a UPS document). If so, grievance! Lastly, as I walk out of the building and basically do the same as I did on the preload. I recommend the other stewards use some of this info and try it.
     
  11. BlackCat

    BlackCat Member

    In my center they are to busy cutting their own backdoor deals.
     
  12. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Did you inform your BA?
     
  13. BlackCat

    BlackCat Member

    Thought about it numerous times but we are having a reelection soon. Neither will be voted back.
     
  14. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Good!!! If you stand by your people, your people will stand by you.
     
  15. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    My BA advised me to ask me to file a resolution of "Supervisors cease doing bargaining unit work" on grievances filed on behalf of other hourlies. Trust me, keep doing what you're doing, and someone will get :censored2: off enough to step up and grow a pair.

    I've been in a far, desolate dungeon corner of my area since I came back from my vacation where I can't see the rest of my area. Sups would still do a tremendous amount of work where I couldn't see it and I finally got another guy to file. The sort manager was watching the area on the cameras and radio'd my FT sup to ask him why he was working harder than the guy that just wrote him up. After that, it's been cut down by at least 80% since I first started nailing them for it.
     
  16. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Define "soon." If it's less than 3 months, then bide your time and show your brothers & sisters you're willing to stand up for them without the protection of being a steward. If it's more than that, consider getting signatures for a petition to make it sooner than later.
     
  17. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I know this is about part time sups but u could hire 4 article 22 guys to do all the shuttling of misloads our driver sups and center manager do. Our center manager is never I mean never in the building all he does is run misloads all day. What I really don't understand is why not just fix the preload.
     
  18. UPSER110

    UPSER110 Active Member

    I wish you worked in my building, how long have you been a steward? has anything changed?
     
  19. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member


    Another option would be to give those signed statements to some drivers (with balls) and let them file. Tends to get a quicker result !!! But of course you should take you piece of the pie also. And I say your already a steward without the title. Go get it !
     
  20. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member


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