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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 72617" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: red">What? What the heck are you talking about?</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">Not really sure what you are talking about here. Can we stick to the pension discussion and stay away from these types of cheap theatrics?</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">Ok, I see. So now you are acknowledging that the union may have been involved in this pension mess. And that is fine. Now at this point in the debate what you should do is to try to stay away from the us against them , evil empire dialogue and try to focus on the real issues. Why specifically do you think UPS is a significant part of the problem? What specifically do you feel UPS did to cause retirees from other companies to drain the CS reserves. What specifically do you feel the union did to create this pension mess or to earn this vague " far from blameless" label. You can't fix the pension problem until you assign specific blame where it belongs. Using vague references like "far from blameless" does not help the fix. If you objectively read through your many posts I think you will see that you have had no problem blaming the company for the pension mess but have struggled to identify the unions involvement.</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Tsk, Tsk. Could you please show me where I said such a thing?</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 72617, member: 1912"] [COLOR=red]What? What the heck are you talking about?[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Not really sure what you are talking about here. Can we stick to the pension discussion and stay away from these types of cheap theatrics?[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Ok, I see. So now you are acknowledging that the union may have been involved in this pension mess. And that is fine. Now at this point in the debate what you should do is to try to stay away from the us against them , evil empire dialogue and try to focus on the real issues. Why specifically do you think UPS is a significant part of the problem? What specifically do you feel UPS did to cause retirees from other companies to drain the CS reserves. What specifically do you feel the union did to create this pension mess or to earn this vague " far from blameless" label. You can't fix the pension problem until you assign specific blame where it belongs. Using vague references like "far from blameless" does not help the fix. If you objectively read through your many posts I think you will see that you have had no problem blaming the company for the pension mess but have struggled to identify the unions involvement.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Tsk, Tsk. Could you please show me where I said such a thing?[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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