Discussion in 'Current Events' started by moreluck, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Sen. Brown: Bill targets tax scofflaws in Congress
  2. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

  3. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    You must be very proud that the republicans turned down the Buffet rule yesterday (30% min tax on people earning over $1 Mill. per year).
    Even though 72% of Americans ,according to polls, would like to see it put in place.

    That's ok, they can cut the $5.9 Billion, it would have generated, from SS or medicare.
    It's time to get off those socialist programs , anyways, right ?
  4. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I wouldn't have a problem with the buffet rule if 50% of all Americans didnt pay zero. Everyone should pay a minimum!!!
  5. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    I don't know much about your taxes, I agree.
    But, here the first $13.500 someone earns as a single is non taxable.

    So, that means that flyer boy that comes to my door once a week to earn some pocket money, doesn't need to pay taxes.
    Either does my co-worker that only works 4 hrs a night for 5 nights, to make ends meet, because she falls under that threshold, as well she has a 4 yr old child to support.

    I supose it's fine with me, if Americans want to tax the working poor.
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    This argument is getting old. Everyone pays taxes. It's just that some get all of what they paid in (and then some) back. My son is in that group. He is a FT college student who also works at Papa Johns. He got back $110 more than he paid in, mostly due to his education write-offs.
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The Buffett rule applies to those earning $2M/year or more and would be graduated in for those earning "only" $1-1.99M This was merely an election year ploy--the issue will be resolved as soon as Obama is re-elected.
  8. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    You have the biggest leader of the world pulling an election year "ploy"'s because he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

    He "ployed" with oil today and now oil prices have spiked today. He's clueless.
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    As much as I want to I will refrain.
  10. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    I hear republicans will also make the Buffet tax rule an election subject.
    I sure hope they are dumb enough to do it, too !
  11. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    They are smart enough to know it wouldn't help pay down the deficit and the way they plan to use it is to show how WEAK the pres's ideas are !!

    So it'll be an election subject embarrass Obam!!
  12. texan

    texan Well-Known Member

    Illegal Workers Used Tax Credit to Pocket $4.2 Billion, Audit Shows

    Talk about a tax loophole.

    Undocumented workers collected $4.2 billion in a certain tax credit last year, up from less than $1 billion five
    years ago, according to a new audit. The report from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration looked
    only at a tax benefit known as the Additional Child Tax Credit, a refundable credit meant for working families.

    The audit found that as a result of vague U.S. law -- as well as an expansion of the tax credit in stimulus legislation
    and other measures -- the number of illegal workers collecting the money has skyrocketed.

    Read more: Illegal Workers Used Tax Credit to Pocket $4.2 Billion, Audit Shows | Fox News
  13. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    The fact that anyone believes this should happen is very troubling forget dem rep or whatever look at the record what has he done he will bankrupt us. If u think these 4 years were bad wait until he isn't worried about getting reelected. It's not just him I would say 80% plus of the house and senate needs to be thrown out. They need a 2 term limit also. This is what happens when everyone is too worried about getting reelected. There should be no such thing as a lifetime politician.
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Uh, there is a two term limit (for President).

    You want Mr. Out of Touch as your next President?
  15. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    How is a business man with business experience and governor experience who raised a large family....out of touch?

    You already let a community organizer run this country......he only knows campaigning. He's defintely good at that.

    I would much rather have a man who knows business and how it works. I want someone who took a loser...the olympics.... and turned it into a winner for Utah.

    He and Ann are done raising kids and can concentrate on the job at hand.

    Obama doesn't understand taxes, gas prices, how to run a company.....can't even spot a winner (because it takes one to know one!)
  16. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Thats why I said THEY need a 2 term limit ALSO!!!!!

    I don't care for Romney all that much but I'm willing to give him a shot i know what the current administration brings to the table and I don't like it.
  17. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Any idiot could have turned the olympics into a winner, all they had to do was what ROMNEY did, get a bailout from the goverment to make the olympics work.
    Romney Got Government Bailout For Olympics, Federal Earmarks For MA | National Confidential

    I thought you were AGAINST anyone who takes goverment bailouts?? Seems you cant stay on one side of the fence very long.



  18. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Good point but all Olympic "Celebrations" are nothing more than a pick pocket operation on the taxpayer. It's pure wealth re-distribution into the hands of local and regional business and gov't functions and their functionaries. Living in a city that had an Olympic "Celebration", the message is always how much the city and region benefits and in some respects that's true but it's by no means from purely market actions. And the allocation of resources afterwards may or may not always work in the "Utopianism" as once proclaimed. Atlanta built the Georgia Dome leading into the Olympics as a part of the greater World Congress Center complex and here we are 20 years later and the talk is the Dome is outdated, old, etc. and that the Falcons need for the taxpayers to foot the bill for a new stadium. So the taxpayers are expected to foot a billion dollar pricetag for what equates to 8 Sundays per year not counting pre-season and maybe a post season game and of course the Monster Truck/Motorcross show?

    Tell me again "conservatives" about market forces and best allocation of resources. Resources that are extracted at the point of a gun for the benefit of someone else. And how is this not socialism?
  19. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Company bailouts and giving money to amateur olympics are very different things.
    I don't blindly support all things on just one side. I look at every case separately.
    There is a difference between just helping and giving a crutch to a corpse.
  20. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Yeah, well, you couldn't !! You would've offended every Mormon in the state of Utah. The olympics were a huge success for the state. I still have lots of friends there and they all love what Romney did there.

    I don't care if the guy is a howdy doody puppet....if he can run a business, make a budget, live by the budget, cut spending, pay down the deficit, etc.......he's got my vote!