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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1188599" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>I do enjoy your ignorance on the job market. The job market's so weak that most employers currently mandate a large availability, then schedule you 3-8 hours per week. I endured this a couple years ago, when I was working a second job (while attending school) after UPS cut my hours to 17.5 (previously worked 21.5-23.5) per week. I worked multiple jobs -- some weeks I would be scheduled 20 hours, others 0. One job was a grocery store that was 32 miles RT (the only place I could find employment at). I was frequently scheduled the closing shift from 6PM-10PM, which required me to battle intense rush hour traffic (over an hour to travel 16 miles) only to be sent home after 30 minutes because the store wasn't busy enough effectively yielding it a job that was costing me money. I worked multiple jobs, and each yielded a similar scenario. And the job market hasn't changed much today, either.</p><p></p><p>In my UPS facility, PTers start by working no more than 3.5 hours per day (higher seniority folks chase them off the clock). In the spring, fall & much of the summer months, they'll typically work 4 days per week -- it takes about 3-4 years seniority to work Mondays here. During the winter, they'll be on-call. Because most people are in search of steady work, usually only young people stick around. We've had people stick around for the insurance, only to be told the company was no longer waiving its minimum hours work requirement -- therefore rendering it 3 years before employees were truly eligible for benefits. </p><p></p><p>But to people like yourself, they remember starting out -- for similar wages, which had a lot more buying power due to inflation of course (but those details shouldn't be important) -- working 20-hours + each week. They remember gas being less than $2/gallon (heck, usually $1/gallon), not the $4/gallon it is today. Like you, they simply cannot comprehend that market status quo and in their heads they remember things as they were, not as they are. Sad.</p><p></p><p>And yes, Dave Ramsey is essentially selling a product. Most of his so-called "free" advice is common sense. Not surprised of your feeling on either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1188599, member: 43436"] I do enjoy your ignorance on the job market. The job market's so weak that most employers currently mandate a large availability, then schedule you 3-8 hours per week. I endured this a couple years ago, when I was working a second job (while attending school) after UPS cut my hours to 17.5 (previously worked 21.5-23.5) per week. I worked multiple jobs -- some weeks I would be scheduled 20 hours, others 0. One job was a grocery store that was 32 miles RT (the only place I could find employment at). I was frequently scheduled the closing shift from 6PM-10PM, which required me to battle intense rush hour traffic (over an hour to travel 16 miles) only to be sent home after 30 minutes because the store wasn't busy enough effectively yielding it a job that was costing me money. I worked multiple jobs, and each yielded a similar scenario. And the job market hasn't changed much today, either. In my UPS facility, PTers start by working no more than 3.5 hours per day (higher seniority folks chase them off the clock). In the spring, fall & much of the summer months, they'll typically work 4 days per week -- it takes about 3-4 years seniority to work Mondays here. During the winter, they'll be on-call. Because most people are in search of steady work, usually only young people stick around. We've had people stick around for the insurance, only to be told the company was no longer waiving its minimum hours work requirement -- therefore rendering it 3 years before employees were truly eligible for benefits. But to people like yourself, they remember starting out -- for similar wages, which had a lot more buying power due to inflation of course (but those details shouldn't be important) -- working 20-hours + each week. They remember gas being less than $2/gallon (heck, usually $1/gallon), not the $4/gallon it is today. Like you, they simply cannot comprehend that market status quo and in their heads they remember things as they were, not as they are. Sad. And yes, Dave Ramsey is essentially selling a product. Most of his so-called "free" advice is common sense. Not surprised of your feeling on either. [/QUOTE]
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