TDU in action at ups!

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Brother Joe, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. Brother Joe

    Brother Joe New Member

    TDU in Action at UPS
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  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Posting this twice does not make it less boring to read.
     
  3. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    Is Brother Joe one of those guys I see waiting at the stop signs with their own sign asking for something?
     
  4. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    I sent all my money to APWA. Still waiting for my 7K a month pension.
     
  5. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    What is APWA?
     
  6. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Those yahoos used to be on here a lot. It's like "Something, Package Workers, Something".
     
  7. splozi

    splozi Guest

    Third time is the charm.
     
  8. annoyed804

    annoyed804 New Member

    GO AWAY TDU and take TIM / S from 804 with you.
     
  9. bigblu 2 you

    bigblu 2 you Active Member

    tdu is a bigger scam than the susanne somers thigh master!wasted six months on that and for nada!
     
  10. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    She was hawking the thigh master while getting lipo.............bitch!
     
  11. Brother Joe

    Brother Joe New Member

    It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or when the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worth cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who at the worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat. Theodore Roosevelt
    Anybody can talk trash online. I have been in the arena. Meet me in the street, I am not a hard man to find. Brother Joe.
     
  12. Brother Joe

    Brother Joe New Member

    and I welcome their hatred-FDR
    I welcome the hatred from supervisors & managers. I welcome the hatred of the company sucks. I welcome the hatred of hoffa sellout wannabes. It confirms I am doing something right. -Brother Joe "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - -- Mahatma Gandhi
    When someone can't win on the fact, they use a variety of tactics. One of those are personal attacks on the messengers credibility.
     
  13. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Not a lot of trash talking your way Joe to start asking to be met in the street. TDU has some legitimate points but where's their solutions? Talking slogans from Gandhi and TR aren't going to win grievances and the "trash talk" from TDU towards the Teamsters sure as hell has caused issues with potential organizing drives not to mention sparking misguided decerts. The dirty little secret Paff won't tell you is he and his minions are clueless when faced with real problems like getting adequate funding structures for bankrupt companies like Hostess. What would TDU have done for YRC? I didn't think you'd have an answer. Takes more than copy and paste to solve real problems. Meet me in the street??? Go away.
     
  14. Brother Joe

    Brother Joe New Member

    Not trash talking, been in hundreds of fights, in the street & competitions. The sucks attacked as could be expected. They were rebutted. I think my copy & paste were on a higher level than the nonsense & jokes they posted. I don't have time for bs. Why would anyone waste their time with that childish crap. TDU provides workshops to train stewards to win grievances. The jr adminstration failed to give reformer locals the support they should expect from the international & droped the ball when they were handed card check. Teamsters have more decerts because the jr administration doesn't fight for good contracts or enforce contracts they have. The starting pay hasn't gone up since we struck in 97 & won. TDU members are Teamsters. jr was a corporate lawyer, hes not a Teamster. he doesn't know what a fairs day work for a fair days pay is. he doesn't have the heart, hes soft. At least his father wasn't a punk. We lost over 100,000 member under jr's reign. We need to organize more members. Then jr, hall & gegare letting ups pull out of the central states. That money went up in smoke. Now I'm here cause I work at ups, I don't work at hostess or yrc. That being said I am suspect of companies & their bankruptcy. Gm was building a billion dollar factory in China while they were getting a bailout on the condition that the union workers take concessions. Companies have been using bankruptcy for years as a negotiation tactic. Then the anti-union pension protection act further hamstringing unions don't help. First they need to open up their books. Chop from the top, cutting the pay of the execs. If in fact they are in financial trouble, any concessions should be offset by language that protects their jobs for example against outsourcing or management doing their work. Also back pay if the company turns around. But mismanaged companies have never been saved by squeezing the workers. Chicago voted yrc down. Then Chicago had to vote again & they threw their vote in with the national. There should have been an organized vote no across the country. The answer is to educate, agitate & organize the members for a fight back! Refer back to the TR qoute. Could you imagine jr leading the 97 strike? Get involved in organizing for a better contract at ups.
     
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    1-800-who-cares
     
  16. iamamember

    iamamember New Member

    I am very happy that you have been in hundreds of fights etc....but who cares......also remember this we all work for the company the company does not work for us......you are nothing but a koolaid aid drinker.
     
  17. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    I am curious, as I really don't know. What is wrong with them? Not trying to start anything, just curious.
     
  18. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Fixed it for you.



    -Bug-
     
  19. Brother Joe

    Brother Joe New Member

    If people don't care to get involved things wont get better.
    The company doesn't work for us, it hasn't been working for us. Therefore we need to change it. We made it change in 97 by striking them. Name calling because you can't when on facts, pathetic. Sticking up for the company, pathetic. Have you such a low opinion of yourself that you don't think you deserve better, pathetic. I know I deserve better. If we can't get a substantial increase in the starting pay there will be a lot of people drinking kool aid because that is all that they will be able to afford.
     
  20. Brother Joe

    Brother Joe New Member

    little company guy