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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1149173" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Nomad, </p><p></p><p>First off, you are correct. In our yards, local 396 business agents have been misrepresenting the "facts" of the T.A. right from the jump. Lets start with brother Turner. Turner comes to the yard on the day the T.A. is announced, and he is telling the members:</p><p></p><p>1) "your insurance is going to stay the same and there will be no changes to it" (even when pressed, he confirms it again)</p><p></p><p>2) "there will be no split raises in this contract" ( again, when pressed, he confirms it over and over)</p><p></p><p>3) "All part timers are getting bumped to $11.00 an hour" ( leaving out that includes the 1.00 skill pay)</p><p></p><p>These turned out to be all misrepresentations of the facts. </p><p></p><p>How about brother Cornejo? Lets see what he had to say in the yards:</p><p></p><p>1) "the insurance stays the same, we are not changing coverage, its only going to be administered by a different agency" (when pressed, repeats same)</p><p> "UPS wants out of the insurance business so we going to create a new administrator but you keep the same plan" (when pressed, cant explain it)</p><p></p><p>2) "there will be no split raises in this contract" (when pressed, repeats same over and over)</p><p></p><p>3) "all part timers are getting a bump to $11.00 an hour" ( no mention of the 1.00 skill pay)</p><p></p><p>4) "9.5 language now covers all drivers" ( when pressed, says he doesnt have all the details)</p><p></p><p>5) "the company cant use technology anymore against drivers" ( when pressed, says he doesnt have all the details)</p><p></p><p>These ALL turn out to be misrepresentations of the facts.</p><p></p><p>Agents Castro, Nishi, Truman ALL REPEATED the same crap in the yards.</p><p></p><p>Especially agent TRUMAN, who comes to the feeder department and gets himself involved in pissing contests when the members are more informed than he is on every issue. TRUMAN continues to maintain (well at least before Brother Marshall came in and contradicted him) that this insurance is exactly the same as what we have already. Feeder drivers are giving him more than he can handle on this issue.</p><p></p><p>Then we have our principle officer Ron H. Two general membership meetings ago, he takes the podium and says that: "i dont have all the information on the contract, but from what I hear, its a strong contract"...."I cant really get into details cause I dont really have it in front of me".... " I cant explain the insurance fully, cause we are waiting for the details of the plan to emerge but let me say that we are fighting for you in local 396"..... "we didnt want to be a part of the C6 central states plan, because that plan isnt as good as the plan you are on now"..." we are going to create our own plan that is way better than the C6 plan but I cant tell you about it because its going to take 6 months to figure it out"....</p><p></p><p>Then, he says this doozy that is suppose to sound like he is a real fighter for the part timer:</p><p></p><p>QUOTE: "I am fighting for our part timers, its all about our part timers. UPS is trying to hurt our part timers but I wont stand for it!" ( obligatory clapping ) "Everything about this contract is about protecting the part timers!" ... "you know, the company wanted to take part timer progression to 7 years, but I said friend--K that, and I got in trouble with the teamsters"..."They wanted 7 years but I got them to take 4 years"...</p><p></p><p>This is where it gets funny. The "Stinks and 407's" in the crowd start clapping and hollaring like he just won the super bowl. But what did he really say? Rather than just saying, "HEY, I CONCEEDED to ANOTHER YEAR OF PROGRESSION FOR THE PART TIMERS, THE SECOND YEAR in two contracts"..... he tries a play on words that makes it sound like he did the part timers a FAVOR!</p><p></p><p>Really RON? You fought hard to increase progression ANOTHER YEAR? Thats TWO years extended under YOUR watch RON. How hard of a fight is that?</p><p></p><p>How about telling us you told the company to go friend-itself when they tried to increase progression? That would be impressive. How about telling the company that you will strike them before you conceed anything further?</p><p></p><p>How about NOT telling us how you got us $3.90 an hour over 5 years because of solid negotiations and instead, told us that by extending progression for part timers, you took that money out of their pockets and put into ours?</p><p></p><p>I realize, that saying it in this fashion doesnt make it so impressive, but people have to understand what kind of shell game the union is playing on us.</p><p></p><p>The brothers and sisters of local 396 are really doing their homework on issues. They are asking the right questions. They are seeking the right information. They are calling the Teamcare number and asking teamcare about coverage. They do not TRUST the that the local is being honest with us after the numerous misrepresentations of the facts everyday in the yards.</p><p></p><p>When the Principle officer of local 396 cant take the microphone at his OWN contract meeting and recommend a YES vote on the contract what does that say about his leadership??? When the principle officer of the local brings in a surrogate to "field" his heat and avoids having to answer to the members questions, what does that say about his ability to lead?</p><p></p><p>These are important things, and I also, am a NO VOTE.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1149173, member: 17969"] Nomad, First off, you are correct. In our yards, local 396 business agents have been misrepresenting the "facts" of the T.A. right from the jump. Lets start with brother Turner. Turner comes to the yard on the day the T.A. is announced, and he is telling the members: 1) "your insurance is going to stay the same and there will be no changes to it" (even when pressed, he confirms it again) 2) "there will be no split raises in this contract" ( again, when pressed, he confirms it over and over) 3) "All part timers are getting bumped to $11.00 an hour" ( leaving out that includes the 1.00 skill pay) These turned out to be all misrepresentations of the facts. How about brother Cornejo? Lets see what he had to say in the yards: 1) "the insurance stays the same, we are not changing coverage, its only going to be administered by a different agency" (when pressed, repeats same) "UPS wants out of the insurance business so we going to create a new administrator but you keep the same plan" (when pressed, cant explain it) 2) "there will be no split raises in this contract" (when pressed, repeats same over and over) 3) "all part timers are getting a bump to $11.00 an hour" ( no mention of the 1.00 skill pay) 4) "9.5 language now covers all drivers" ( when pressed, says he doesnt have all the details) 5) "the company cant use technology anymore against drivers" ( when pressed, says he doesnt have all the details) These ALL turn out to be misrepresentations of the facts. Agents Castro, Nishi, Truman ALL REPEATED the same crap in the yards. Especially agent TRUMAN, who comes to the feeder department and gets himself involved in pissing contests when the members are more informed than he is on every issue. TRUMAN continues to maintain (well at least before Brother Marshall came in and contradicted him) that this insurance is exactly the same as what we have already. Feeder drivers are giving him more than he can handle on this issue. Then we have our principle officer Ron H. Two general membership meetings ago, he takes the podium and says that: "i dont have all the information on the contract, but from what I hear, its a strong contract"...."I cant really get into details cause I dont really have it in front of me".... " I cant explain the insurance fully, cause we are waiting for the details of the plan to emerge but let me say that we are fighting for you in local 396"..... "we didnt want to be a part of the C6 central states plan, because that plan isnt as good as the plan you are on now"..." we are going to create our own plan that is way better than the C6 plan but I cant tell you about it because its going to take 6 months to figure it out".... Then, he says this doozy that is suppose to sound like he is a real fighter for the part timer: QUOTE: "I am fighting for our part timers, its all about our part timers. UPS is trying to hurt our part timers but I wont stand for it!" ( obligatory clapping ) "Everything about this contract is about protecting the part timers!" ... "you know, the company wanted to take part timer progression to 7 years, but I said friend--K that, and I got in trouble with the teamsters"..."They wanted 7 years but I got them to take 4 years"... This is where it gets funny. The "Stinks and 407's" in the crowd start clapping and hollaring like he just won the super bowl. But what did he really say? Rather than just saying, "HEY, I CONCEEDED to ANOTHER YEAR OF PROGRESSION FOR THE PART TIMERS, THE SECOND YEAR in two contracts"..... he tries a play on words that makes it sound like he did the part timers a FAVOR! Really RON? You fought hard to increase progression ANOTHER YEAR? Thats TWO years extended under YOUR watch RON. How hard of a fight is that? How about telling us you told the company to go friend-itself when they tried to increase progression? That would be impressive. How about telling the company that you will strike them before you conceed anything further? How about NOT telling us how you got us $3.90 an hour over 5 years because of solid negotiations and instead, told us that by extending progression for part timers, you took that money out of their pockets and put into ours? I realize, that saying it in this fashion doesnt make it so impressive, but people have to understand what kind of shell game the union is playing on us. The brothers and sisters of local 396 are really doing their homework on issues. They are asking the right questions. They are seeking the right information. They are calling the Teamcare number and asking teamcare about coverage. They do not TRUST the that the local is being honest with us after the numerous misrepresentations of the facts everyday in the yards. When the Principle officer of local 396 cant take the microphone at his OWN contract meeting and recommend a YES vote on the contract what does that say about his leadership??? When the principle officer of the local brings in a surrogate to "field" his heat and avoids having to answer to the members questions, what does that say about his ability to lead? These are important things, and I also, am a NO VOTE. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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