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<blockquote data-quote="Bubblehead" data-source="post: 1199032" data-attributes="member: 14176"><p>You can use what I posted as a segway for your usual shtick, but the reality is that to vote yes is the path of least resistance and requires very little in the way of pragmatic thinking.</p><p>To vote no takes guts and conviction and is motivated by knowledge and research.</p><p>Nobody is asking for "more cookies", rather we no voters simply refuse to concede concessions to a company who continues to record record profits.</p><p>We refuse to be caught up in the stock market mentality where it is no longer good enough to do well, rather you have to continually do better and better or the stock suffers.</p><p>There is no ceiling to this mentality and they aren't concerned with how it is propagated or who is chewed up and spat out in the process.</p><p>We will not sacrifice our hard earned benefits to feed the greed.</p><p>We are also not willing to be martyrs for the other failing sectors of our union AGAIN.</p><p>First we strike in '97 to keep the pension.</p><p>Then 10 years later we beg UPS to take it, to bail out a failing Central States.</p><p>Now 5 years later you want the same Central States to look after my health care?</p><p>No thanks, I read the memorandum in the Master that gives Central States carte blanche to change the terms of our benefits as they see fit throughout the duration of this contract.</p><p>This is a door that needs to stay closed.</p><p>I prefer the present plan I'm in where UPS is required to provide defined benefits rather than a defined contribution. </p><p></p><p>4.38 billion???....yea, I want mine and will fight for it.</p><p>No more or no less.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bubblehead, post: 1199032, member: 14176"] You can use what I posted as a segway for your usual shtick, but the reality is that to vote yes is the path of least resistance and requires very little in the way of pragmatic thinking. To vote no takes guts and conviction and is motivated by knowledge and research. Nobody is asking for "more cookies", rather we no voters simply refuse to concede concessions to a company who continues to record record profits. We refuse to be caught up in the stock market mentality where it is no longer good enough to do well, rather you have to continually do better and better or the stock suffers. There is no ceiling to this mentality and they aren't concerned with how it is propagated or who is chewed up and spat out in the process. We will not sacrifice our hard earned benefits to feed the greed. We are also not willing to be martyrs for the other failing sectors of our union AGAIN. First we strike in '97 to keep the pension. Then 10 years later we beg UPS to take it, to bail out a failing Central States. Now 5 years later you want the same Central States to look after my health care? No thanks, I read the memorandum in the Master that gives Central States carte blanche to change the terms of our benefits as they see fit throughout the duration of this contract. This is a door that needs to stay closed. I prefer the present plan I'm in where UPS is required to provide defined benefits rather than a defined contribution. 4.38 billion???....yea, I want mine and will fight for it. No more or no less. [/QUOTE]
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