Teamcare unsustainable. Hoffa words, not mine.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by kingOFchester, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Letter sent to Obama with Hoffa signature:

    Union Letter: Obamacare Will ‘Destroy The Very Health and Wellbeing’ of Workers - Corporate Intelligence - WSJ

    "...........And finally, even though non-profit plans like ours won’t receive the same subsidies as for-profit plans, they’ll be taxed to pay for those subsidies. Taken together, these restrictions will make non-profit plans like ours unsustainable, and will undermine the health-care market of viable alternatives to the big health insurance companies............."

    But lets not discuss this non issue. Lets talk about fans in the trucks. Or the 9.5 list. Or vacation days. Thats what important, Not the fact that our leader says that our Teamcare is "unsustainable":angry::angry::angry:

    Hoffa, if it is unsustainable, why move all of us into the plan???? What a joke, if it weren't so serious. Ok, carry on.......can i get a fan in my truck? That is the real issue...........


    Lets hope TDU will see this and use it in their campaign, being that a lot of teamsters read the TDU website.
     
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  2. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Didn't he endorsed this plan?
     
  3. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    YUP!!
     
  4. Ms.PacMan

    Ms.PacMan Well-Known Member

    This is why Hoffa needs more Upsers in his MULTIEMPLOYER Central States plan - Teamcare. How long do you think it will be before Teamcare is underfunded and they begin redirecting our raises and pension contributions into it?

    Unions were advised to seek substantial raises for their members in lieu of heath care coverage from employers for the very reason Hoffa is crying now.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...vre9Sz&sig=AHIEtbSsDVALZZBdy0mLSGL8-ksK6Y4Gag

    They've known this all along. I'd rather just have UPS pay me the $18,000 they say my benefits are worth and buy my own insurance.
     
  5. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Question:
    Who was the UPS plan coverage through?
     
  6. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member


    It is provided by UPS and is a Blue Cross Blue Shield.

    Teamcare is a Union not-for-profit plan. Who they use, i don't know.
     
  7. My insurance is Bluecross and Blue shield. Very good coverage!
     
  8. Ms.PacMan

    Ms.PacMan Well-Known Member

    Why are you - a person in Rhode Island, Local 251 in every single healthcare and contract thread and the single biggest cheerleader for Central States and Teamcare when you have a completely different Teamster plan and this will have no effect on you whatsoever?
     
  9. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    For profit, provided by UPS vs Not-for-profit provided by teamcare.......
     
  10. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    No way these clowns are getting off the hook on this one! The tax on union coverage was an issue from day one.
     
  11. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    The insurance company that Teamcare contracts with to administer the plan will be for profit. Our union plan is run by Humana and they are definitely for profit.
     
  12. These Clowns need to get the HOOK OUT OF HERE !
     
  13. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Teamcare is not-for-profit. They pay a for profit carrier. A non profit food pantry will purchase food from Kraft and such. Kraft is a for profit company, but the pantry is not-for-profit.

    Teamcare is not-for-profit. That is what Hoffa is talking about. Who they pay and their profit status is irrelevant.
     
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  14. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Our local used to have Bluecross as our provider. Now I understand why UPS wanted out. Bluecross was out of control. We saved 5 million over 5 years switching to United. Same exact plan.
     
  15. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, did you say something?
     
  16. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    All well and good, but what does this have to do with the Hoffa letter? Lets not get off the topic. Do you care to comment on the letter and the fact that Hoffa says it is unsustainable??
     
  17. wgf46

    wgf46 Member

    I'm in the South, UPS Plan run by Aetna. Excellent plan ! Benefits are great !
     
  18. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Ups contractual plan equals guarantee.
    Teamcare under current obamacare law = unsustainable, Well according to Hoffa.
     
  19. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member

    Sounds like the Unions -including the Teamsters and Hoffa are finally faced the reality that Obamacare has ahd will hurt WORKING middle class America. Surprise surprise !!
     
  20. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    But yet Hoffa wants to add me to that list. Leave me in my ups private plan