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<blockquote data-quote="InsideUPS" data-source="post: 1194067" data-attributes="member: 31414"><p>TOS, thank you for your independent thought and input. I believe it is important to know that our current UPS health plan is not without language that allows the company to amend or terminate the plan. </p><p></p><p> For example, page 73 states, "<u><strong>Plan Amendment or Termination</strong></u>: UPS has establised this plan with the expectation that it will be continued indefinitely. Nevertheless, UPS reserves the right to amend or terminate the plan at any time by a written resolution of the Board of Directors, which is duly adopted. No amendment or termination of this plan will reduce or eliminate benefits for claims incurred prior to the effective date of the amendment or termination."</p><p></p><p>Personally TOS, I don't trust anyone with my livelihood whether it be the IBT, UPS, our Government, etc.. I was raised in an accounting business in which I was able to experience a wide range of business activities and government action (IRS) monitoring those activities. Whether we put our faith in the hands of the Union or UPS, we are going to be at their mercy for the legalese that is written into every insurance related document. The best defense we have as an individual is through collective bargaining regardless of how much we may mistrust it at times. </p><p></p><p>We are dealing with a VERY different company (UPS) than ever before. I believe that the recent enhancements in our healthcare represent a victory for labor in a time when big business generally rules the landscape. The NO Vote from individual members like you and I obviously still has some power in getting our message across. I have to believe that IF in 5 years time the health care benefits are on the "table", a NO vote will hold similar power from it's members.</p><p></p><p>Although I will benefit from this contract in many ways, I also share your concern for existing C6 members whose benefits will not be enhanced to match new members. I look at this as a divisive issue which is something I believe is detrimental to the long term existence of the IBT. </p><p></p><p>Peace Y - from a true member of the "Hippie Generation"</p><p></p><p></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsideUPS, post: 1194067, member: 31414"] TOS, thank you for your independent thought and input. I believe it is important to know that our current UPS health plan is not without language that allows the company to amend or terminate the plan. For example, page 73 states, "[U][B]Plan Amendment or Termination[/B][/U]: UPS has establised this plan with the expectation that it will be continued indefinitely. Nevertheless, UPS reserves the right to amend or terminate the plan at any time by a written resolution of the Board of Directors, which is duly adopted. No amendment or termination of this plan will reduce or eliminate benefits for claims incurred prior to the effective date of the amendment or termination." Personally TOS, I don't trust anyone with my livelihood whether it be the IBT, UPS, our Government, etc.. I was raised in an accounting business in which I was able to experience a wide range of business activities and government action (IRS) monitoring those activities. Whether we put our faith in the hands of the Union or UPS, we are going to be at their mercy for the legalese that is written into every insurance related document. The best defense we have as an individual is through collective bargaining regardless of how much we may mistrust it at times. We are dealing with a VERY different company (UPS) than ever before. I believe that the recent enhancements in our healthcare represent a victory for labor in a time when big business generally rules the landscape. The NO Vote from individual members like you and I obviously still has some power in getting our message across. I have to believe that IF in 5 years time the health care benefits are on the "table", a NO vote will hold similar power from it's members. Although I will benefit from this contract in many ways, I also share your concern for existing C6 members whose benefits will not be enhanced to match new members. I look at this as a divisive issue which is something I believe is detrimental to the long term existence of the IBT. Peace Y - from a true member of the "Hippie Generation" [/QUOTE]
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