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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 827478" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>You have to love a clown who puts on his right wing makeup, cashes his union "bartered" paycheck every week, then talks smack about the union. If you hate the teamsters so much and all they provide you as an employee, then why not quit UPS and go to work for Fedex where it is not UNIONIZED and you wouldnt have to put up with all that union crap that you are forced to experience at UPS.</p><p> </p><p>Why not apply at fedex and negotiate your own starting salary, pay 100% for your own medical benefits, contribute 100% to your own pension, buy your own uniforms, work 6 or 7 hour paid days with a 2 or 3 hour unpaid lunch then kickback and watch us UNION members break the 100K mark while you work at earning 35K a year.</p><p> </p><p>Guys like you are a joke. Its easy for someone to talk smack about the unions cause they watch fox news 24 hours a day and go to tea party rallies, but its another thing to understand what a unionized job is all about.</p><p> </p><p>Only the ignorant would believe that without the strength of the Teamsters over the last 100 years, anyone would be making what we are earning today in the full time ranks. "We" as todays UPS employees earn the highest benefit package of ANY UPS employee before us. "WE" are the highest paid people in our industry and if you can demonstrate ANY other employee in the package delivery business earning more than us than please post that company.</p><p> </p><p>We "earn" what we "earn" because <strong>ALL</strong> the employees before us spent hours in the trenches and also stood by the Teamsters arm in arm. Now, because a political party wants to get a hold of all the squishy brains in our ranks we have threads like this challenging how our union bargains for our contracts.</p><p> </p><p>Only an idiot would believe that "politics" isnt a part of collective bargaining. How do you think labor laws are passed? Maybe you believe the "fair labor standard act of 1939" was just a law that was passed out of the generosity of big corporations?</p><p> </p><p>Maybe you believe the 40 hour workweek was just a gift of all employers? Maybe paying workers time and one half for over 40 was a bonus to us employees because the employers thought it was a good idea?</p><p> </p><p>Politics is a big part of our union and that unions ability to protect worker rights that would otherwise be attacked by the republicans of this country who would rather see everyone make less than 25K a year and without any benefit package unless the employee pays 100% for them.</p><p> </p><p>Do you believe that the republicans are without corrupt corporations donating millions of dollars trying to reduce the wages of middle class americans?</p><p> </p><p>It always amazes me how someone in the middle class, can support a political party that would and is, doing everything possible to harm the middle class in this country. What are the magic words that have convinced you that as a middle class american, you are entitled to "LESS" than what you are making today?</p><p> </p><p>When congress began, they earned "peanuts" compared to what they earn today, yet, they recieve COLA increases for cost of living while at the same time the REPUBLICANS are cutting COLA's for our senior citizens. Congress is bound by the 27th amendment and had to "SUE" the goverment to protect their cost of living increases.</p><p> </p><p>Salaries of congressional members:</p><p>From 1789 to 1815 Congressmen received $6.00 daily, but only on the days they showed up. From 1815 to 1855 Congressmen received a modest salary, compared to the massive salaries of the Congressmen today. In 1855 their salaries increased to $3,000 annually. Then in 1865 they gave themselves a 66% increase to $5,000 annually. 6 years later they boosted their salaries another 50% to $7,500 per year. The American People became so outraged by the greed that congressmen were showing, that congress was forced to take a 33% paycut, which lasted 34 years until 1907, at which time they gave themselves another 50% increase back to $7,500 annually. They took two other paycuts, both of which were during the Great Depression, for a total of 15%. These are the only 3 times in American History that any Congressmen have ever taken salary cuts. </p><p>In 1935, Congress voted themselves a 19% increase, then they didn't receive another pay raise until 12 years later, when they gave themselves a 25% increase in 1947. In 1955 Congress gave themselves a whopping 80% increase. In the years 1987, and 1991 Congress received 2 raises per year. 3% + 20% in 1987, and 4% and 25% in 1991. Within the last 10 years Congress has raised their salaries 8 times for a total of 26%. While the lowest paid American Workers have only received 1 raise within the last 10 years.</p><p>In the last 25 years Congress has seen 18 salary increases totaling 277%. While the lowest paid American Workers have only seen 5 wage increases in 25 years totaling a mere 166%. In the last 25 years the cost of living has increased 251%. The Minimum Wage has not been increased since 1997. While Congressmen's pay has increased 8 out of the last 10 years</p><p> </p><p>It inst that hard to convince a person to harm themselves if they do not do any "fact checking". Its much easier to repeat political rhetoric when it sounds patriotic.</p><p> </p><p>At the end of the day, a person who would bash the teamsters while collecting and cashing a unionized paycheck is only a 21st century hypocrite who would probably vote for Sarah Palin.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 827478, member: 17969"] You have to love a clown who puts on his right wing makeup, cashes his union "bartered" paycheck every week, then talks smack about the union. If you hate the teamsters so much and all they provide you as an employee, then why not quit UPS and go to work for Fedex where it is not UNIONIZED and you wouldnt have to put up with all that union crap that you are forced to experience at UPS. Why not apply at fedex and negotiate your own starting salary, pay 100% for your own medical benefits, contribute 100% to your own pension, buy your own uniforms, work 6 or 7 hour paid days with a 2 or 3 hour unpaid lunch then kickback and watch us UNION members break the 100K mark while you work at earning 35K a year. Guys like you are a joke. Its easy for someone to talk smack about the unions cause they watch fox news 24 hours a day and go to tea party rallies, but its another thing to understand what a unionized job is all about. Only the ignorant would believe that without the strength of the Teamsters over the last 100 years, anyone would be making what we are earning today in the full time ranks. "We" as todays UPS employees earn the highest benefit package of ANY UPS employee before us. "WE" are the highest paid people in our industry and if you can demonstrate ANY other employee in the package delivery business earning more than us than please post that company. We "earn" what we "earn" because [B]ALL[/B] the employees before us spent hours in the trenches and also stood by the Teamsters arm in arm. Now, because a political party wants to get a hold of all the squishy brains in our ranks we have threads like this challenging how our union bargains for our contracts. Only an idiot would believe that "politics" isnt a part of collective bargaining. How do you think labor laws are passed? Maybe you believe the "fair labor standard act of 1939" was just a law that was passed out of the generosity of big corporations? Maybe you believe the 40 hour workweek was just a gift of all employers? Maybe paying workers time and one half for over 40 was a bonus to us employees because the employers thought it was a good idea? Politics is a big part of our union and that unions ability to protect worker rights that would otherwise be attacked by the republicans of this country who would rather see everyone make less than 25K a year and without any benefit package unless the employee pays 100% for them. Do you believe that the republicans are without corrupt corporations donating millions of dollars trying to reduce the wages of middle class americans? It always amazes me how someone in the middle class, can support a political party that would and is, doing everything possible to harm the middle class in this country. What are the magic words that have convinced you that as a middle class american, you are entitled to "LESS" than what you are making today? When congress began, they earned "peanuts" compared to what they earn today, yet, they recieve COLA increases for cost of living while at the same time the REPUBLICANS are cutting COLA's for our senior citizens. Congress is bound by the 27th amendment and had to "SUE" the goverment to protect their cost of living increases. Salaries of congressional members: From 1789 to 1815 Congressmen received $6.00 daily, but only on the days they showed up. From 1815 to 1855 Congressmen received a modest salary, compared to the massive salaries of the Congressmen today. In 1855 their salaries increased to $3,000 annually. Then in 1865 they gave themselves a 66% increase to $5,000 annually. 6 years later they boosted their salaries another 50% to $7,500 per year. The American People became so outraged by the greed that congressmen were showing, that congress was forced to take a 33% paycut, which lasted 34 years until 1907, at which time they gave themselves another 50% increase back to $7,500 annually. They took two other paycuts, both of which were during the Great Depression, for a total of 15%. These are the only 3 times in American History that any Congressmen have ever taken salary cuts. In 1935, Congress voted themselves a 19% increase, then they didn't receive another pay raise until 12 years later, when they gave themselves a 25% increase in 1947. In 1955 Congress gave themselves a whopping 80% increase. In the years 1987, and 1991 Congress received 2 raises per year. 3% + 20% in 1987, and 4% and 25% in 1991. Within the last 10 years Congress has raised their salaries 8 times for a total of 26%. While the lowest paid American Workers have only received 1 raise within the last 10 years. In the last 25 years Congress has seen 18 salary increases totaling 277%. While the lowest paid American Workers have only seen 5 wage increases in 25 years totaling a mere 166%. In the last 25 years the cost of living has increased 251%. The Minimum Wage has not been increased since 1997. While Congressmen's pay has increased 8 out of the last 10 years It inst that hard to convince a person to harm themselves if they do not do any "fact checking". Its much easier to repeat political rhetoric when it sounds patriotic. At the end of the day, a person who would bash the teamsters while collecting and cashing a unionized paycheck is only a 21st century hypocrite who would probably vote for Sarah Palin. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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