Ted Cruz announces... wait, im still laughing...! LOL

newfie

newfie

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JL 0513 said:
Bernie keeps on winning. Hillary isn't leading by a whole lot in regular delegate count. She has most of the super delegates who backed Clinton from the start and doesn't reflect public voting. This is where it has been "fixed" for Clinton. It's ludicrous. People called this for Clinton from the start. And it almost doesn't matter how well Sanders does.
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The media is so fixated on a republican contested convention and trying to permanently bury trump that they are missing the other storm that is possibly brewing.

Bernie is not leaving anytime soon.
Bernie is possibly gaining momentum.
Bernie could go to the convention with a sizable block of support
Bernie is not handing that block over without some major concessions from Hillary
Bernie's people are the most vocal and definitely the most radical if you see what they have done to trumps rallies
if Bernie goes to that convention with a sizable portion of regular delegates and Hillary's super delegates throw the election

there could be some interesting metrics at play here.
 
JL 0513

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Most people don't like Kasich, aren't voting for Kasich and yet polls show him as the strongest contender against the Dems. Not quite sure how that works. So the 85% of primary voters currently voting for Trump and Cruz think Kasich is the guy? C'mon.
 
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newfie said:
The media is so fixated on a republican contested convention and trying to permanently bury trump that they are missing the other storm that is possibly brewing.

Bernie is not leaving anytime soon.
Bernie is possibly gaining momentum.
Bernie could go to the convention with a sizable block of support
Bernie is not handing that block over without some major concessions from Hillary
Bernie's people are the most vocal and definitely the most radical if you see what they have done to trumps rallies
if Bernie goes to that convention with a sizable portion of regular delegates and Hillary's super delegates throw the election

there could be some interesting metrics at play here.
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Bernies wins yesterday do little to help him win the nomination. Despite winning, the share of delegates didnt give him any leg up.

Dont get too excited.

TOS.
 
DriveInDriveOut

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JL 0513 said:
Most people don't like Kasich, aren't voting for Kasich and yet polls show him as the strongest contender against the Dems. Not quite sure how that works. So the 85% of primary voters currently voting for Trump and Cruz think Kasich is the guy? C'mon.
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The polls are for a matchup between certain candidates.
In a contest between Trump and Hillary or Cruz and Hillary, polls say Hillary wins.
In a contest between Kasich and Hilllary, Kasich wins.
At leas that's how to polls say it will go right now.
 
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What I find hilarious is how the thought process works for right wingers.

They dont understand polling, historical polling or predictions.

At this time in the last two elections, the republican candidate was about 6 points behind before the convention, and when it went one on one with Obama, each GOP candidate trailed by at least 4 points and tightened it up 1.5% after the convention , but still lost.

Trump is trailing Hillary by 19 points at this point which is more than 4 times what Romney and McCain were trailing at the same time. IF anyone thinks Trump is going to make up 19 points with tough talk, then you need your heads examined.

Trump has already sealed his fate, and no tough talk is going to make a difference at this point. IF it was, it would have happened, but he continues to push away women, minorities and establishment republicans.

Trump is by far, the worst candidate the GOP could have ever put up against Hillary, and you people will have yourselves to blame.

You fell for the hype and allowed him to bully the rest of the candidates out of contention.

As a democrat, I thank you.

TOS.
 
tourists24

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sportello said:
That's because they have a death wish for the GOP.
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Could be for sure. The voters are making their statements "for" someone instead of holding their noses at who party leaders are telling them to. The Dems are following their orders with Hillary. Even with Bernie closing the gap somewhat, the super delegates won't allow anything else happen
 
Sportello

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JL 0513 said:
Most people don't like Kasich, aren't voting for Kasich and yet polls show him as the strongest contender against the Dems. Not quite sure how that works. So the 85% of primary voters currently voting for Trump and Cruz think Kasich is the guy? C'mon.
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Because most voters are independents. Kasich could get votes from someone who would vote for Hillary over Donald or Raphael.

tourists24 said:
Could be for sure. The voters are making their statements "for" someone instead of holding their noses at who party leaders are telling them to. The Dems are following their orders with Hillary. Even with Bernie closing the gap somewhat, the super delegates won't allow anything else happen
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I'm not so sure about the Super Delegates, but the Teahadist movement of the Repubs is determined to tear it all down. Cruz and Trump manifest that.
 
BrownArmy

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All the Super Delegates switched to Obama once he had a lock on the regular Delegates - not sure that will happen in this case, but just because the Super Delegates are for Clinton now doesn't mean they couldn't/wouldn't switch.
 
newfie

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BrownArmy said:
All the Super Delegates switched to Obama once he had a lock on the regular Delegates - not sure that will happen in this case, but just because the Super Delegates are for Clinton now doesn't mean they couldn't/wouldn't switch.
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its going to be an interesting summer. If the present trends continue there may be chaos at both conventions.
 
tourists24

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[QUOTE I'm not so sure about the Super Delegates, but the Teahadist movement of the Repubs is determined to tear it all down. Cruz and Trump manifest that.[/QUOTE]

So the tea party voters are the terrorists..? Not the establishment officials actually running the party?
 
newfie

newfie

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sportello said:
Because most voters are independents. Kasich could get votes from someone who would vote for Hillary over Donald or Raphael.



I'm not so sure about the Super Delegates, but the Teahadist movement of the Repubs is determined to tear it all down. Cruz and Trump manifest that.
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You may have to update your talking points or put down the National Enquirer , tea party is not the issue in this race. Republican old guard is fighting for their political lives.

In a strange twist to this story the liberal media and the republican old guard are actually reading from the same play book
 
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