Ted Kennedy and the KGB...

[Lue C Fur]

Sen. Kennedy Offered to Collaborate with Soviets Against Reagan, KGB Documents Show:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120314193033/http://blog.getliberty.org/default.asp?display=2377

 

[Babagounj]

Yes a true American; also a drunk, a murderer, a womanizer, got caught cheating at Harvard , helped change the immigration laws which allowed his brother's killer into the country, was all for wind energy except in front of his own ocean front property, used the US Navy has his personal search & rescue unit, has his friends in Congress sticking us with a $168M monument during a recession.

 

[tieguy]

this is pretty earth shaking. to think the KGB may have associated with slime balls like ted kennedy.

 

[fxdwg]

Is this a Branch Davidian thread in the making? Are you guys in Utah? Texas? Those guys are dead. What do you propose???

 

[Babagounj]

Is this a Branch Davidian thread in the making? Are you guys in Utah? Texas? Those guys are dead. What do you propose???

sainthood for teddy

 

[moreluck]

I don't think divorced guys can be saints.......Maybe we can name a bridge after Teddy. The Teddy Overpass. The Kennedy Carry-Over. The Senator Span. The A-Hole Arch.
The Teddy Trestle. The Vile Viaduct. The Killer Connection.

 

[Babagounj]

Didn't you hear about the letter he sent to the Pope, asking for absolution.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Didn't you hear about the letter he sent to the Pope, asking for absolut.

 

[Babagounj]

Judicial Watch Obtains Previously Redacted Material from the FBI File of the Late Senator Ted Kennedy


The documents include a December 28, 1961, State Department memo describing a tour of several Latin American countries taken by then-Assistant District Attorney of Suffolk County Kennedy. This document as it was originally made public was almost completely redacted. After an initial challenge by Judicial Watch, a version with fewer redactions was released. Judicial Watch continued to argue that the blackouts were baseless and, after six more months, the FBI relented. Among the statements previously withheld but now made available to Judicial Watch:

• “While Kennedy was in Santiago he made arrangements to ‘rent’ a brothel for an entire night. Kennedy allegedly invited one of the Embassy chauffeurs to participate in the night’s activities.”
• “n each country Kennedy insisted on interviewing ‘the angry young men’ of the country. He wanted to meet with communists and others who had left-wing views. …Ambassador Freeman, Bogota, said the first person whom Kennedy wanted to meet was Lauchlin Currie.” (The document subsequently identifies Currie as a person who “had been mentioned in Washington investigations of Soviet spy rings.”)
  [*]“n Mexico Kennedy asked Ambassador Mann that certain left-wingers be invited to the Embassy residence where interviews could be held. Mann took the strong position that he would not invite such people and stated that if any such interviews were to be conducted, all arrangements should be made by Kennedy himself.”

Judicial Watch Obtains Previously Redacted Material from the FBI File of the Late Senator Ted Kennedy | Judicial Watch

 

[packageguy]

Wow, I just learned alot about a popular a**h*le. thanks guys

 

[MrFedEx]

Yes a true American; also a drunk, a murderer, a womanizer, got caught cheating at Harvard , helped change the immigration laws which allowed his brother's killer into the country, was all for wind energy except in front of his own ocean front property, used the US Navy has his personal search & rescue unit, has his friends in Congress sticking us with a $168M monument during a recession.

Yes, a true American; also a drug addict, a womanizer, never made it past high school, helped change the Republican population of the US into ranting lunatics, a racist, was all for tax breaks for the ultra-rich like himself, evaded military service by claiming he had an anal cyst, used his private jet to go on sexual romps with underage children in the Dominican Republic, got caught upon his return to the country with faked Viagra prescriptions, and hawks useless products that make him millions. Not Ted Kennedy, but Rush Limbaugh. Pretty earth-shaking, to think that any of us have ever associated with slime balls like Rush.

 

[Babagounj]

If you wish to rant against someone start your own thread, don't be another klein and hi-jack this thread.

 

[wkmac]

I don't think divorced guys can be saints........

Seems true enough. Maybe Teddy should have molested young boys instead!

Personally, I think Teddy and the Catholic church deserved one another. They both claim some higher calling and yet thumbed their noses at higher morality and ethics. And the Pope claims to be the Vicar of Christ!

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21-23

 

[MrFedEx]

If you wish to rant against someone start your own thread, don't be another klein and hi-jack this thread.

Are you afraid to have someone showcase an example of Right Wing hypocrisy? Limbaugh makes Kennedy look like an angel.

 

[Lue C Fur]

Are you afraid to have someone showcase an example of Right Wing hypocrisy? Limbaugh makes Kennedy look like an angel.

We could start a new thread and post left and right with Hypocrisy all day long. The point is that is thread is about Ted Kennedy or is that to hard to figure out thru the haze of hatred you have for the right?

 

[wkmac]

Are you afraid to have someone showcase an example of Right Wing hypocrisy? Limbaugh makes Kennedy look like an angel.

I got no beef slamming Rush on so many levels, even on levels you guys on both sides never touch but I'd still have to say Kennedy has Limbaugh beat in one major aspect. Kennedy was a member of a criminal gang who used organized force and strongmen to compell a compliant population to do his and his other gang members bidding.

Rush is a bombastic clown using words and hyperbole to make a good living but no matter what, he never stuck a gun in someone's face to get his way. He did cheerlead others for it but unlike Kennedy he never took the next step and did his own dirty work. Another good reason to see him for the coward he really is but more important is the very big statist that in fact he is. Major difference IMO no matter how you swing across the spectrum and seems to suggest to me you've got your own brand of hypocrisy to deal with.

In August 2009', LINKS, a socialist website had an article on the so-called "lion of liberalism" and the truth paints a very different picture from the one painted by both democrats and republicans alike. A fact by the way that both sides want hidden from the frenzied base and the voters at large.

Democratic Party senator Ted Kennedy's political career reflects the course of US liberalism, from its heyday in the 1960s to its sorry state today.
For decades, Ted Kennedy was the bogeyman used by conservatives in their fundraising appeals to raise millions of dollars. To them, the liberal Kennedy seemed to represent everything they hated--there was no easier way to get a right-wing crowd booing and hissing than to mention Kennedy's name.
So it was more than a little jarring to hear conservatives sing Kennedy's praises for his "bipartisanship" in the wake of Kennedy's death from brain cancer on August 25.
"There is nobody else like him", Republican Senator Judd Gregg told the Associated Press. "If he had been physically up to it and been engaged on this [the current health-care reform debate], we probably would have an agreement by now."

The policies that later became known as "Reaganomics" -- austerity for the poor, pro-business tax cuts for the rich, and deregulation -- actually got their start during the ill-fated Democratic administration of President Jimmy Carter, with an assist from Ted Kennedy.
As Lee Sustar wrote in Socialist Worker:

It was Kennedy who called for deregulation of the airline and trucking industries as early as 1974, two years before Carter was elected. "[Kennedy] won Carter to the cause in the 1976 campaign and ultimately gave the president the issue," the Boston Globe noted ... The consequences of Kennedy-sponsored deregulation are still being felt in the series of airline bankruptcies today and the virtual deunionization of the trucking industry.
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Pro-business Kennedy staffers Alfred Kahn, who became a guru of deregulation under Carter, and Stephen Breyer, now one of the more pro-business justices of the US Supreme Court, pioneered these policies. Breyer also promoted, as far back as 1979, the idea that forms the core of today's "climate change" legislation--using a market in "pollution credits" to address environmental damage.
Kennedy wasn't as conservative as Carter, or as the next neoliberal Democratic President Bill Clinton. In fact, Kennedy mounted a failed liberal challenge to Carter for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1980. He denounced Clinton's 1996 "welfare reform" bill abolishing Aid to Families with Dependent Children.
But once the "liberal lion" Kennedy endorsed a free-market policy like deregulation, it made it easier for other more conservative Democrats to go along with the Republican Party as it proceeded to move US politics to the right. Kennedy even voted for the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings bill imposing mandatory budget cuts in 1985....
But we shouldn't forget that -- as a mainstream politician who mastered the Washington game of logrolling and back-scratching -- Ted Kennedy also enabled policies that have devastated the lives of the ordinary people for whom he claimed to fight.

I always loved watching the little Reaganites poo-poo and lamblast Carter and Kennedy while championing their hero Reagan for deregulation and supposedly opening up the "free market" but the truth is, the one liberals and democrats hide if not just outright ignore is that the lynchpin of Reaganomics wasn't Reagan but was in fact Carter and Kennedy. So too is our current policy in the Mideast and it was Carter who in 79' stirred up the Afghans provoking the Soviets to invade the "Graveyard of Empires". Not unlike O-Bonb-A, Carter was no real man of peace either!

Just as bad are the dishonest republicans and "conservatives" who cheer on their Superman when in fact his Cape and powers were a gift from the supposed villian. And you wonder why I see all politics as nothing more than the theatric championship wrestling match that in reality is what it all is.

 

[moreluck]

Rush isn't a politician....he only comments on some of the buffoons who are. Kennedy was an actual senator who could have a real pull on how things ran around the country. Big difference!!

 

[MrFedEx]

Rush isn't a politician....he only comments on some of the buffoons who are. Kennedy was an actual senator who could have a real pull on how things ran around the country. Big difference!!

No pull? Rush is the defacto head of the GOP. He talks, and Republican leaders listen. Ever wonder why Rush wears that funky headset? It's because he has two cochlear implants. One of the side effects of major Oxycontin abuse is hearing loss. Think there's a connection? Nah.

 

[wkmac]

No pull? Rush is the defacto head of the GOP. He talks, and Republican leaders listen. Ever wonder why Rush wears that funky headset? It's because he has two cochlear implants. One of the side effects of major Oxycontin abuse is hearing loss. Think there's a connection? Nah.

Dude, check your email as that's old news and you've just not seen the latest memo!

That explains how it was that a left-wing prankster chose to impersonate David Koch, rather than, say Roger Ailes or Rush Limbaugh, in the call to Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wis.). Ailes and Limbaugh are yesterday's bogeymen; today's and tomorrow's and the day after tomorrow's will be the Koch brothers.

 

[moreluck]

No pull? Rush is the defacto head of the GOP. He talks, and Republican leaders listen. Ever wonder why Rush wears that funky headset? It's because he has two cochlear implants. One of the side effects of major Oxycontin abuse is hearing loss. Think there's a connection? Nah.

You can't possibly compare a radio personality (someone akin to Howard Stern) to a real Washington senator. Apples and oranges. I consider myself conservative and I've never listened to Rush....ever. So he's no leader of GOP.......although he is a bit of an elephant.