Ted Kennedy

tieguy

Banned
I just want to share these thoughts. It's disappointing in the responses of some in regards to the death of Senator Kennedy.
Many times we see everyone offer prayers up and sympathy for people they don't even know, at that time of need. I usually never reply but prefer to personally say the prayer rather than type it.

If you must judge this man, then judge him on the whole of his works and not just one day. Forgive him his sins, excuse his faults, recognize the good he did with his opportunities of redemption resulting from the Chappaqudick accident, and lets not ignore the memory of a considerate and dedicated man who spent nearly half a century serving his country. He was a good citizen, a good American.



The intent of this thread was to tar the persona of Ted Kennedy, and absolutely no respect was going to be given to the achievements concerning this man, and his life's work to public service unless others spoke up. Couldn't even wait for the dirt to be thrown on his casket. If no compassion and restraint is possible for just a few days after his death, well then those need to do some self evaluation and maybe consider setting down that bible since some can't follow the scriptures.
Again, my thoughts are not only about respecting the Senator, but it's about respecting members of this board. So there you go. Blast away today.

there is no blasting to take place. I think your sentiments are wonderful for most people.

If however Diesel had done to mary jo what ted kennedy did and if Diesel had handled it like ted kennedy did' then diesel would have done some hard time.

His death does not absolve him of this sin nor of the fact his stature and wealth allowed him to escape the consequences of his sin.

 

over9five

Moderator
Staff member
His death does not absolve him of this sin ......

Ah, but the Pope did! The contents of that secret letter hand delivered to the Vatican were revealed yesterday. Kennedy asked to be prayed for, and the Vatican approved his request.

I find it a little two-faced that the Vatican would approve this "praying for" a pro-abortion, pro-gay politician when they also tell parishioners not to support such people.
Another "if it were you or me......." story, but no, it's a rich politician.
 

toonertoo

Most Awesome Dog
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there is no blasting to take place. I think your sentiments are wonderful for most people.

If however Diesel had done to mary jo what ted kennedy did and if Diesel had handled it like ted kennedy did' then diesel would have done some hard time.

His death does not absolve him of this sin nor of the fact his stature and wealth allowed him to escape the consequences of his sin.
Very well put.
It was a very sad story, and to avoid DUI, (or charges of murder) whatever his reasons, he let her die. And people said Oh well and kept voting him in.

Any one of us would have paid dearly. Anyone of us would have gotten help, for our passenger instead of thinking of ourself only.

I know the Lord will forgive him. It was societys job to make him pay on earth, and we never did.
Shame on us.

As for the coverage, its disgusting, he may have been a wonderful husband, father, son, brother. He came from a family of greatness. I dont take any of that away from him, but enough.
I also think the coverage of Ronald Reagan, Michael Jackson, Anna Nicole Smith, and many others are just on overkill.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Getting the story straight before Washington D.C. canonizes him!!.........

The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty

As soon as his cancer was detected, I noticed the immediate attempt at the"canonization" of old Teddy Kennedy by the mainstream media. They are saying
what a "great American" he is. I say, let's get a couple things clear & nottwist the facts to change the real history.

1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled
twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheatfor him.

2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops! The man can't count to four! His
father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the
necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea , where a war was raging. No preferential
treatment for him! (like he charged that President Bush received).

3. Kennedy was assigned to Paris , never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged. Imagine a person of
his "education" NEVER advancing past the rank of Private!

4. While attending law school at the University of Virginia , he was citedfor reckless driving four times, including once when he was clocked driving 90
miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark. Yet his Virginia driver's license was never revoked. Coincidentally,he passed the bar exam in 1959. Amazing!

5. In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash, and hospitalized for several months. Test results done by the hospital at the time he was admitted
had shown he was legally intoxicated. The results of those tests remained a "state secret" until in the 1980's when the report was unsealed. Didn't hear
about that from the unbiased media, did we?

6. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts . At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's keys to his
Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail,
Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Poucha Pond.

7. He swam to shore and walked back to the party, passing several houses and a fire station. Two friends then returned with him to the scene of the
accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew - that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the
authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the
wreck had already been discovered. Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car.
The Kennedy family began "calling in favors", ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an
autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue
Kopechne and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that
his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident, Kennedy's "political enemies" have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy, and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy's family paid their
attorney's bills... a "token of friendship"?


8. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. He authored or
argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, and
funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors and is widely held as the "standard-bearer for liberalism". In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. immigration policy upside down and
opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries.

9. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of an increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the pious grilling
he gave the last two Supreme Court nominees, as if he was the standard bearer for the nation in matters of "what's right". What a pompous jerk!

10. He is known around Washington as a public drunk, loud, boisterous and very disrespectful to ladies. JERK is a better description than "great
American". "A blonde in every pond" is his motto.



Let's not allow the spin doctors make this jerk a hero -- how quickly the
American public forgets what his real legacy is. Let's keep this going for
truth, justice and the American way!
The Sunday Herald reported yesterday that taxpayer spending on a shrine being built to Kennedy in Dorchester has ballooned to $38.3 million since Kennedy’s Aug. 25 death. The money comes from earmarks slipped into a variety of federal agencies by Sen. John friend. Kerry and Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Malden).
The powerful Bay State pols want to boost the total outlay to $68 million before the end of this year.
Some $28.9 million of that would be siphoned from the Defense Department budget alone - money the backers of the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the United States Senate at Columbia Point say is justifiable because the institute will sponsor programs for the children of military veterans.
Critics of government boondoggles criticize the taxpayer expense, noting that the Kennedy family and its friends are wealthy and connected enough to raise what they need privately.
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
The Sunday Herald reported yesterday that taxpayer spending on a shrine being built to Kennedy in Dorchester has ballooned to $38.3 million since Kennedy’s Aug. 25 death. The money comes from earmarks slipped into a variety of federal agencies by Sen. John friend. Kerry and Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Malden).
The powerful Bay State pols want to boost the total outlay to $68 million before the end of this year.
Some $28.9 million of that would be siphoned from the Defense Department budget alone - money the backers of the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the United States Senate at Columbia Point say is justifiable because the institute will sponsor programs for the children of military veterans.
Critics of government boondoggles criticize the taxpayer expense, noting that the Kennedy family and its friends are wealthy and connected enough to raise what they need privately.

This really does not surprise me...heck i almost expect it...does anyone really think our govt (democrat or republican) gives a shiat about the American people?
 
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