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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 807112" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>This is exactly the <strong><u>WRONG </u></strong>advice to take with respect to telematics. There are people terminated all over the country exclusively from telematics information. </p><p> </p><p>What was posted here is INCORRECT. "The Union does not recognize it for discipline"</p><p> </p><p>This is probably the dumbest statement made on this board in a while.</p><p> </p><p><u><strong>Article 6 of the national master agreement ratified in 2008 states:</strong></u></p><p>"no employee shall be discharged on a first offense if such discharge is based solely upon information recieved from gps or any successor system unless he/she engages in dishonesty (defined for the purposes of this paragraph as any act or omission by an employee where he/she intends to defraud the company).</p><p> </p><p>An employee can simply close a next day air package on a different street if they cant make it by 1030 and then deliver it at 1033 and the company can use telematics to discharge the employee under article 6 language.</p><p> </p><p>The Union opened this door in 2008 with this agreement. The caveat is defined between the parenthesis. Defrauding the company is a loose term that can be used in thousands of ways.</p><p> </p><p>This has led to the terminations of many drivers in the UPS system through telematics.</p><p> </p><p>All drivers should take this advice seriously. </p><p> </p><p>DO NOT ATTEMPT to do business as usual. You must do the job correctly or the company WILL use this technology against you.</p><p> </p><p>We were the first to go online with telematics in the country. So far, we have lost about 2 guys a month to telematic provided information.</p><p> </p><p>At first, the company maintains that its use is for safety only, however, after a few shorts months, they make the transition to a full disciplinary tool.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 807112, member: 17969"] This is exactly the [B][U]WRONG [/U][/B]advice to take with respect to telematics. There are people terminated all over the country exclusively from telematics information. What was posted here is INCORRECT. "The Union does not recognize it for discipline" This is probably the dumbest statement made on this board in a while. [U][B]Article 6 of the national master agreement ratified in 2008 states:[/B][/U] "no employee shall be discharged on a first offense if such discharge is based solely upon information recieved from gps or any successor system unless he/she engages in dishonesty (defined for the purposes of this paragraph as any act or omission by an employee where he/she intends to defraud the company). An employee can simply close a next day air package on a different street if they cant make it by 1030 and then deliver it at 1033 and the company can use telematics to discharge the employee under article 6 language. The Union opened this door in 2008 with this agreement. The caveat is defined between the parenthesis. Defrauding the company is a loose term that can be used in thousands of ways. This has led to the terminations of many drivers in the UPS system through telematics. All drivers should take this advice seriously. DO NOT ATTEMPT to do business as usual. You must do the job correctly or the company WILL use this technology against you. We were the first to go online with telematics in the country. So far, we have lost about 2 guys a month to telematic provided information. At first, the company maintains that its use is for safety only, however, after a few shorts months, they make the transition to a full disciplinary tool. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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