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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 808513" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>@ Bigblu : LOL..that was funny.</p><p> </p><p>@ Sober : Yes, we have had many cases in So Cal, and all were initiated by telematics and confirmed through telematics for dishonesty as called for in Article 6 of the national master and our package rider addendum 2. Of all the cases, only one has stuck and the others brought back for being a "first offense" as called for in Article 6.</p><p> </p><p>Remember, the "new" language for telematics is similiar to the "signing for packages" language. You get ONE bite of the apple, then after that, its lights out, NO MATTER WHAT other language says.</p><p> </p><p>Telematics is more than just global positioning Sober. Its a detailed report of starts and stops, speed, miles, travel path, backing, use of braking, diad location versus intended location. Dishonesty is something that the company wanted a concession from the UNION with, and they got it in Article 6 of the national master agreement.</p><p> </p><p>In doing so, the Teamsters asked for a concession of their own by including the "first offense" clause. The company asked for a "caveat" (pronounced CA-VI-OT) that reinforces a termination if they can PROVE it through the use of telematics.</p><p> </p><p>This is why it sez "information SOLELY obtained through"..... It does not say it need to be attached to any other types of "proof". The union has conceded by accepting this language that "telematics" is proof enough.</p><p> </p><p>One bite of the apple. Plain and Simple. After that, hopefully the driver will know NOT to repeat the behavior.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 808513, member: 17969"] @ Bigblu : LOL..that was funny. @ Sober : Yes, we have had many cases in So Cal, and all were initiated by telematics and confirmed through telematics for dishonesty as called for in Article 6 of the national master and our package rider addendum 2. Of all the cases, only one has stuck and the others brought back for being a "first offense" as called for in Article 6. Remember, the "new" language for telematics is similiar to the "signing for packages" language. You get ONE bite of the apple, then after that, its lights out, NO MATTER WHAT other language says. Telematics is more than just global positioning Sober. Its a detailed report of starts and stops, speed, miles, travel path, backing, use of braking, diad location versus intended location. Dishonesty is something that the company wanted a concession from the UNION with, and they got it in Article 6 of the national master agreement. In doing so, the Teamsters asked for a concession of their own by including the "first offense" clause. The company asked for a "caveat" (pronounced CA-VI-OT) that reinforces a termination if they can PROVE it through the use of telematics. This is why it sez "information SOLELY obtained through"..... It does not say it need to be attached to any other types of "proof". The union has conceded by accepting this language that "telematics" is proof enough. One bite of the apple. Plain and Simple. After that, hopefully the driver will know NOT to repeat the behavior. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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