Temp driver end date/question

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Thatguy123, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. Thatguy123

    Thatguy123 Member

    So, all of our temp drivers came into work on Friday thinking it was going to be a normal day. Well, our local teamsters rep filed a grievance on all of the temp drivers behalf being that it was after Dec 31. His reason was for UPS to hire more FT drivers (we all know this isn't going to happen). Anyway, some of us ended up delivering ground later in the day because there was no other option after being told by management that we were not allowed to earlier in the day. Needless to say, the day was so effed up that it wasn't worth it. My question is, will they try to pay me air rate even though I delivered ground in the afternoon? And, do I have to report to drive Monday morning even though our last day was supposed to be the 31st? Everyone is in the dark about it. Thanks
     
  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Top driver rate. If they tell you come in, then do. Let the company and the union fight it out.
     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You should be paid ground rate for the work that you did that day.

    The reason for the confusion is there is revised language in the yet-to-be ratified national contract which allows seasonal workers to work the first two weeks of January. Unfortunately, the contract is not in place yet so we are still working under the language of the current NMA which says no seasonals after 12/31.

    I would call before going in on Monday. It may be a good idea to have all seasonals start 15 minutes after the permanent drivers so as to avoid any possible confrontation.
     
  4. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I really wish the union had stood their ground on this one. I feel this was our 1 great shot at getting a few extra drivers hired all over the country.
     
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  5. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    When you say temp driver, do you mean seasonal?
     
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Yes.
     
  7. UPSER110

    UPSER110 Active Member

    This happened to me at the beginning of 2012 and 2013. I filled both years, only for my business agent to come down and say "we have an agreement with the company to keep using reg-temps after 12/31" He said it like they were doing me a favor..
     
  8. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Your BA can not make side agreements. Sounds like you need a new BA.
     
  9. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    And getting seasonal pay also I suppose. No thanks. I make top driver pay when I deliver. No guarantees on hours, but usually work more hours then I want anyway.
     
  10. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    I would doubt they would add a driver for a couple of weeks in January. If they did, I sure they would have hired them shortly after anyways.

    They would just load every one up heavy, and worry about the few grievances later.
     
  11. UPSER110

    UPSER110 Active Member

    I agree, pretty weak..
     
  12. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    There's is no way we could handle the volume we have now without our helpers and seasonal drivers. This of course is just for my center.


    Either way would it have killed the union to stand their ground. We have essentially let the company implement anything they want from the new contract and withhold our raises.
     
  13. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    I agree with you, but seasonals are probably working in all aspects of the operation, so they would probably just roll some loads over like they did in my centers. Lots of angry customers, and they used the "adv weather" as a reason for the delay, even though the load that got here at 9pm wasn't unloaded til 11am the next day.
     
  14. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    In are old supplement the cut off for the casuals / seasons was Dec 31 and in the new it Jan 15. Those that have similar contract wording and have casuals working they shouldn't be casual they should now be FT drivers. It's either all or none not parts of new contract are in effect.

    File file file.....
     
  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    We're told we can't. The union or at least our local gave the company a pass on this one.

    In all honesty what can you do if your steward and BA say no its fine.
     
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The national passed-----I think that if it had not the union would be pressing the issue.
     
  17. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    That's fine and I understand that but don't say we are working under the old contract then.

    I realize there are union by laws and such but it should if been more along the lines of. The locals that didn't pass the contract will continue to work under the old contract. In all other places we will move forward with the new contract.


    That's pretty much what's happening anyway.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    ...except for the financials....
     
  19. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I would consider 4 year progression financials.....
     
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    ....the only financials that concern me are on my paystub....