Hey Trick, good to “see you” again. Interesting conversation, this.
Well, lets recap this thread.
Wish I could find a good cheap lawyer.. ready to get even@
So that means you do not have one.
About your hearing you stated
I did.... told them I did nothing wrong
My union rep. didn't say much, even saw him laughing it up with the u.p.s boss
Those union big boys sure don't say much because it is no there money lost or kids insurance!!!
Of course you told them you did nothing wrong, just like you have told us here. And last I heard, the union laughing it up with UPS management is not a crime. And of course they dont care much that your kids lost their insurance, you didnt care either, you took a lower paying job, just like the one UPS offered, but without bennies. Now who is the stupid one?
they offered was a janitorial combo job loading trucks... 3 am- noon.... sucky hours / degrading/ pay cut
Unemployment didn't go through cause I was not totally fired from the company until last week. Accident happened last June
Got another job but with no benefits/ less pay!! Surviving is rough when your used to making that big money
Offered combo job before the local hearing, denied the offer, deadlocked at local hearing, then discharged at national hearing
Why didnt you take the combo job?
Because I have 2 kids/ wife works... Hard to find babysitter at 3 in the morning... Why should I have to degrade myself to sweeping floors/ loading trucks and no more driving when I didn't do anything wrong
Now you are getting truthful on us. You didnt take the job because you felt you were being degraded. And of course, hell, your wife works, whats the big deal.
As to your unemployment sob story, sorry, not truthful. You were fired the first day. You only had the hearings to try and get your job back. But you were fired from day one. all you have to do is go down and apply for the unemployment bennies retroactively. So another one of the not so true truths.
Now finally at post 63, some info on the actual accident, not just poor pitiful me garbage
Post 63 I was attemting to cross an interesection, looked both ways, proceeded then heard a loud noise. The motorcyclist was traveling at an unsafe speed per 3 witnesses and swerving through traffic. He slammed into the side of the brown truck. I never saw him coming, had no idea what hit me. Discharged due to article 17 and they said the accident was avoidable!!! I am not reluctant to give details , ask me anything!
The police report shows that the accient was caused by unsafe speed from the motorcylist. Circumstances that I caused the accident=none!!
I dont' regret not taking the combo job.... Gotta stick up for what I believe in
I didn't print the whole story at first, because I have never been on this website.. I did not know how it works. I know where the union hall is.. I know the agent's name.... he basically didn't do his job right... never set up any meetings to talk about case
Finally some actual info. Good boy. Of course, you dont want to print the whole story on the website, only put on the website that you were railroaded by the company and union, but yet no details of the actual accident? How stupid do you think we are here.
So the union guy did not do his job right basically? So what was it that he did wrong, basically?
Post 86
Weather was sunny... it was during the day... I had red flashing lights, he had yellow flashing lights... very busy intersection
Now why wait until post 86 to add this little piece of worthless information? After all, the fact that the union rep was hamming it up with the big bad UPS boss is much more important, isnt it?
COMPANY DID NOT MAKE UP GROSS NEGLIGENCE CHARGES. I WAS FIRED FOR ARTICLE 17, WHICH IS GROSS NEGLIGENCE..
MAKES PERFECT SENSE,
Well lets see, the slip of the tongue and brain together. They did not make up the charges, I was fired for gross negligence, and it makes perfect sense. I can not argue with that one bit.
THEY LIKE CERTAIN PEOPLE.. THEY NEVER OFFERED SETTLEMENT, JUST A CRAPPY JOB WITH NO DRIVING...
Kinda like you like your kids? Turn down a paying job with insurance to take a job with less pay, no future, and no insurance? But then you would have felt degraded? What do you feel like now in the job you currently have?
Yes, I stopped and looked both ways and proceeded. IF HE WAS NOT SPEEDING ( 60-80 MPH IN A 35 MPH) HE WOULD HAVE NEVER REACHED MY BROWN TRUCK, HE WOULD BE ALIVE AND I WOULD STILL HAVE A JOB
I never saw him. I didn't just get into the intersection, I was almost all the way through. If I had 3 more seconds my truck would have made it
THE U.P.S. INVESTIGATORS ESTIMATE HE WAS GOING 65-80 MPH. BY THE WAY , I NEVER SAID I HAD NO TAKERS... THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
Interesting thought progression. But the deal is, if your truck would not have been in the intersection, he would not have hit you. And of course, since you are determined not to post actual facts of the case, we are to rely on your judgement on the matter. Judgement which has put your poor children out there without insurance. Judgement which landed you a dead end job without bennies.
Sorry, your judgement track record is less than good.
EVERYONE KNOWS 3RD SHIFT SUCKS.... WHY WOULD ANYONE WHO IS USED TO DAYSHIFT TAKE THAT POSITION AND A PAY CUT WITH NO OVERTIME ?????
at is your opinion.... I will always know it was not my fault. How did I pull out in front of the cycle when I never saw him.. What do you work for management???
My wife supports my decisions. I worked 3rd shift for lots of years, couldn't fall asleep... too much pressure
Nope, work for myself these days. But at one time, things like this facinated me, and I tried to get drivers the best deal they could in situations like this. But I find you less than honest. Hell, we are close to 100 posts, and finally getting to the truth of the matter. You got your feelings hurt, cause you were going to be removed from driving. So instead of dealing with reality, you let your false pride get in the way of thinking about what was the best for your family, and decided to make yourself a victim instead. Sorry, there is too much BS and not enough hard evidence to support your claims.
As to the wife supporting you.....I have a neice who is married to a real scum bag. She has caught him cheating on her many times, the last time, he repented by having her name tatooed on his back as a show of his love. And she swallowed that crap. But the fact remains, even though she supports him and his decisions, he is still a looser.
So it goes like this. Some on this site have posted possible support for you in this matter, much like your wife. But you have only filled them with crap on how you are being mistreated by a company and union, not fact. Probably the same BS you told your wife.
But many more have posted that your accounts of the accident do not make sense, and you nave not been forthcomming with any real evidence, and the only actual facts you have posted, actually show you could really have been at fault.
So post some factual information, not that your wife and kids believe in you. Thats nice, but it will not get your job back.
Your turn. If you want our help, quit with the BS you snowed your wife with. We want fact. Like the police report, any records of any of the hearings, letters from UPS etc. All the rest of your postings are just BS to what you need to be posting
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