Termination Question

[BigUnionGuy]

He probably sheeted an EAM in the building so it wouldn't show up late, claimed he was "working as directed" only to have his on-car deny ever giving that directive.

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[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

We had a driver get fired for that he eventually got his job back. But during the time he was out he was able to read the writing on the wall and decided to quit /retire early and go work somewhere else.

Swoooosh!!


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[barnyard]

I suspect that the union has told the driver that he/she does not have a case that the term will stick and there is no point fighting it.

 

[Stonefish]

I suspect that the union has told the driver that he/she does not have a case that the term will stick and there is no point fighting it.

It amazes me how people assume the union said something without any facts. He/she still has the right to file a grievance and due process.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I suspect that the union has told the driver that he/she does not have a case that the term will stick and there is no point fighting it.

The only thing the Local should do.... is explain the options.

Let the member decide.

Anything else.... is asking for Labor Board charges.



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[UPSGUY72]

The only thing the Local should do.... is explain the options.

Let the member decide.

Anything else.... is asking for Labor Board charges.



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Explain how he hasn't a leg to stand on anymore most likely.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Explain how he hasn't a leg to stand on anymore most likely.

BUG is right---the union should tell the member what their options are and that failure to do so could lead to NLRB charges for poor representation.

I also agree that they should give the member an honest assessment of their case.


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[BigUnionGuy]

Explain how he hasn't a leg to stand on anymore most likely.

If an Officer or Agent of the Local....

Wants to relate "similar" cases and their outcome.... OK.


But you never.... ever.... try and dissuade someone, from protesting a termination.

They have 6 months to file Labor Board charges. And once they can't get another job....



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[UPSGUY72]

If an Officer or Agent of the Local....

Wants to relate "similar" cases and their outcome.... OK.


But you never.... ever.... try and dissuade someone, from protesting a termination.

They have 6 months to file Labor Board charges. And once they can't get another job....



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I agree.

 

[Wally]

Yes, for dishonesty. I don't have the Companies reasoning, but I know what the driver did.

Maybe the driver was working while on lunch? Who knows?

 

[JackStraw]

He probably sheeted an EAM in the building so it wouldn't show up late, claimed he was "working as directed" only to have his on-car deny ever giving that directive.


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Same thing happened in my center. Except the sup didn't recall okaying it. Driver got fired. He got his job back, but from now on, he does nothing dishonest and takes his medicine when he has to.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Same thing happened in my center. Except the sup didn't recall okaying it. Driver got fired. He got his job back, but from now on, he does nothing dishonest and takes his medicine when he has to.

My post was self-deprecating.


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[Brownslave688]

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Was the termination justified?


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Totally irrelevant. The employee should still file and try to get their job back.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

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Totally irrelevant. The employee should still file and try to get their job back.

Sorry, if I screw up and it's on me, I am done.


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[Non sequitur]

I will try to contact driver on Monday. I was concerned that once the 10 days had elapsed without grieving the termination they would be sh-t out of luck.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Sorry, if I screw up and it's on me, I am done.

Really....

Short of stealing, caught lying, or (intentionally) killing someone in the UPS truck....

Everything else, is negotiable.



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[upschuck]

Here the union automatically files a grievance on every termination.

 

[3 done 3 to go]

How many years did he have in? I hate when people ask a question. Then leave us hanging. File,file,file. Steward should have done it for him, to just sign.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

He probably sheeted an EAM in the building so it wouldn't show up late, claimed he was "working as directed" only to have his on-car deny ever giving that directive.


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Dishonesty.......question , which is more dishonest, sheeting a package early or signing Diad yourself for a sig required pkg. (which I would never do) which you have openly stated you have done on multiple occasions?????

 

[ezmoney5150]

10 days.... in the Central Region.





You still have the right to protest.... what the company "deems" dishonesty.



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You're right. I wasn't thinking about discharge.

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