Terminations in 804 begin: 20 drivers fired Monday

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by PiedmontSteward, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    From: http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/q...-250-queens-drivers-protest-article-1.1742718

    The article is also posted on 804's website.
     
  2. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

  3. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    804 is bringing to light the tax breaks/city incentives UPS gets as a way to bring political pressure on the company and probably enlightened NY Daily News on a few things. It's a valid tactic.
     
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  4. greengrenades

    greengrenades To be the man, you gotta beat the man.

    I have a serious question and want an opinion. They fire 20 drivers Monday, and they are going to fire more. Why would the rest of the guys work if they know they will be fired? Is it because these guys will get their jobs back and this would just add to the fire? Maybe get caught on refusal to work, or something like that? I mean if it were me and I knew I was going to be fired I would just call in until they let me go.
     
  5. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    As long as you are still working you are still bringing home a paycheck. Still a chance of a negotiated settlement to keep your job.
     
  6. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    It will be just a slap on the hand. They will be back to work by Monday
     
  7. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    In my opinion, the company shouldn't have been able to take the 20 drivers off the job and should have waited for a decision to be rendered via the grievance process. As such, I think 804 can now make the argument that the company isn't following the grievance procedure (as they did on Feb. 26) and then provide a legal 72 hours strike notice to the company.
     
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  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    No way.
     
  9. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    Have faith. Grasshopper
     
  10. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Sounds like an orchestrated dance for both sides to save face.
     
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  11. NoRespect

    NoRespect New Member

    went to the training area today and saw more than 30 driver trainees in class so yes they will be firing all of us soon enough
     
  12. 'Lord Brown's bidding'

    'Lord Brown's bidding' Well-Known Member

    Let's see how well those trainees do first. We all know this job isn't as easy as the general public-and even many on the inside-believes it is. And the workload is going to be even more stressful than before.
     
  13. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    I still think the union should orchestrate a full blown strike against the company 72 hours from 8am tomorrow. If the mass firing of 250 members without due process isn't cause what is?
     
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  14. Irishman Collins

    Irishman Collins Active Member

    Where in the Hell, is the I.B.T.? If this happened when senior was general president we would all be walking untill our brothers and sisters were returned to work! This is pathetic that these guys are being hung out to dry!

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  15. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Their scabs, not trainees.
     
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  16. 'Lord Brown's bidding'

    'Lord Brown's bidding' Well-Known Member

    Dude, if the original strike was indeed, a wildcat, however noble, these guys are new union guys.
     
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  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Scabs cover during a sanctioned work stoppage. These are permanent replacements.


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  18. Irishman Collins

    Irishman Collins Active Member

    Wally, you hit the nail on the head brother and I hope they are treated like scabs!

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  19. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    And the union stands by and does nothing?
     
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    What would you like them to do?


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