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<blockquote data-quote="104Feeder" data-source="post: 1217702" data-attributes="member: 42554"><p>Nope. I'm "just" a Steward. </p><p></p><p>Asked and answered. </p><p></p><p>What we have today is better than we've had in prior years. Usually it's a one page double sided summary. </p><p></p><p>You'll receive all the pertinent language changes in your ballot as you usually do.</p><p> If I had my way, I have plenty of leftover Halloween candy I would put in your ballot.</p><p></p><p>Ballots go out this month.</p><p></p><p>See, if you had more from Aetna or Kaiser in the past you would be able to compare on your own, but you didn't get more before did you? </p><p></p><p>It's my understanding that Andy worked with Southwest Administrators using the framework for a plan setup for Safeway. Two people from Safeway sit on that board. Why don't you ask Andy yourself?</p><p></p><p>I have Stewards? </p><p></p><p>I'm not a representative of the WC, but if I become one I would say so. It's my understanding they stayed with the current providers to ensure a "seamless transition". </p><p></p><p>It seemed to me it was the language that allowed the 'carve out' that was saying that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure in 5 years we will be facing better circumstances. The ACA will hopefully have had a chance to work & HC costs might be showing signs of stablization. Or maybe it's worse. Regardless, we're prevented from bargaining for current retirees & can only bargain for future retirees. No one is interested in screwing retirees of any generation as we will all hopefully be one someday. In my opinion you roll the dice as to what the climate is going to be when negotiations occur, and this couldn't have been a worse time for us as far as healthcare is concerned. It's only the the strength of the West from people like Andy who kept our MOB's in place all these years that saved our <img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> frankly. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And I'm sure you'll still be waiting. It's a brand new plan and it's our baby. Personally, I'm excited that we have a chance to do something better for our Members and now we can claim credit for the Plan's success or responsibility for it's failure. You know as well as I do that everything is up for negotiation every Contract year with Healthcare being the exception because of th Maintenance of Benefits language. Now with that gone we'll be taking a hard look at what the Company can afford to keep our plans in place and perhaps improve them. Seems to me that what we should be doing is holding Management accountable so that we continue to make record profits & maybe being smart about how we spend our Healthcare dollars as it's really all of our $ now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="104Feeder, post: 1217702, member: 42554"] Nope. I'm "just" a Steward. Asked and answered. What we have today is better than we've had in prior years. Usually it's a one page double sided summary. You'll receive all the pertinent language changes in your ballot as you usually do. If I had my way, I have plenty of leftover Halloween candy I would put in your ballot. Ballots go out this month. See, if you had more from Aetna or Kaiser in the past you would be able to compare on your own, but you didn't get more before did you? It's my understanding that Andy worked with Southwest Administrators using the framework for a plan setup for Safeway. Two people from Safeway sit on that board. Why don't you ask Andy yourself? I have Stewards? I'm not a representative of the WC, but if I become one I would say so. It's my understanding they stayed with the current providers to ensure a "seamless transition". It seemed to me it was the language that allowed the 'carve out' that was saying that. I'm sure in 5 years we will be facing better circumstances. The ACA will hopefully have had a chance to work & HC costs might be showing signs of stablization. Or maybe it's worse. Regardless, we're prevented from bargaining for current retirees & can only bargain for future retirees. No one is interested in screwing retirees of any generation as we will all hopefully be one someday. In my opinion you roll the dice as to what the climate is going to be when negotiations occur, and this couldn't have been a worse time for us as far as healthcare is concerned. It's only the the strength of the West from people like Andy who kept our MOB's in place all these years that saved our [IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG] frankly. And I'm sure you'll still be waiting. It's a brand new plan and it's our baby. Personally, I'm excited that we have a chance to do something better for our Members and now we can claim credit for the Plan's success or responsibility for it's failure. You know as well as I do that everything is up for negotiation every Contract year with Healthcare being the exception because of th Maintenance of Benefits language. Now with that gone we'll be taking a hard look at what the Company can afford to keep our plans in place and perhaps improve them. Seems to me that what we should be doing is holding Management accountable so that we continue to make record profits & maybe being smart about how we spend our Healthcare dollars as it's really all of our $ now. [/QUOTE]
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